lifegoesonbrah
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I always thought that both sides were against police state mentality. Do we all agree, regardless of the administration running the program, that logging everyone's information is overreaching?
Do you support current NSA surveillance tactics?
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UncleBuck
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the alternative to logging everyone's data for ties to terror rings would be profiling.*
i like how one of your options is "depends on who i can blame it on", especially since these activities have been going on for so long and now there is a sudden outrage due to who you can blame it on.
ironic fail thread is...expected.
lifegoesonbrah
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So you support it, then?
UncleBuck
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as i stated before this "news" (LOL!) broke, i do not care as i am not in contact with AQAP or the like.
but i do enjoy a good opportunity at pointing out ironic fail.
I don't think many people change what they support based on who they can blame it on, rather, I think that most people get different sides of the story based upon who is in power and how the media reacts to that person in charge.
If you think for one instant that Presidents Bush and Obama were treated the same by the media, you are thinking incorrectly.
If Rachel Maddow is your primary source for information, you will not see this as that big of a deal.
If you think for one instant that Presidents Bush and Obama were treated the same by the media, you are thinking incorrectly.
If Rachel Maddow is your primary source for information, you will not see this as that big of a deal.
UncleBuck
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that's dead wrong as maddow is a big civil liberties bug, as are most anchors on MSNBC.
i haven't checked fox news in a while, but i would wager that they are suddenly very big on civil liberties, thereby reversing their previous position on the issue.
lifegoesonbrah
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I think Obama would pick C.
Isn't it ironic, don't you think?
[video=youtube;xZf8_Cd6H9k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZf8_Cd6H9k[/video]
Its like raaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnn on a sunny day
lifegoesonbrah
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lol, who reversed their position now?
UncleBuck
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are you so naive that you are surprised that a politician said stuff to get elected?
i mean, even rawn pawl will pander to get elected. remember how that supposed libertarian called birth control pills a problem and sex for purposes other than procreation immoral?
don't even get me started on rend pawl. just curious, are you gonna be pawlbotting for rend as well?
lifegoesonbrah
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So you support politicians that just make stuff up and wing it when they get elected, then? Do you support government surveillance as well? You still haven't voted.
How is Ron Pauls moral position on birth control inconsistent with his political stance?
Doer
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But does it matter?...uh huh....sha ubi...
Not to me. I obey all the laws of my state. This may even cure that cumbersome problem of SWAT thugs offing the wrong household.
There's a show on Prime Time about this...my dad watches it. The designer left a sanctioned backdoor and the system sends him SS numbers so he can do some good. The Govt has to ignore all the casual murder being planned, but he doesn't. They watch the big stuff. He blocks murder.
The giant good done by this organization, WE the People of the USA , dwarfs, minimizes and otherwise makes totally insignificant, any collateral damage. So far so good.
We are at war, buckos.
Not to me. I obey all the laws of my state. This may even cure that cumbersome problem of SWAT thugs offing the wrong household.
There's a show on Prime Time about this...my dad watches it. The designer left a sanctioned backdoor and the system sends him SS numbers so he can do some good. The Govt has to ignore all the casual murder being planned, but he doesn't. They watch the big stuff. He blocks murder.
The giant good done by this organization, WE the People of the USA , dwarfs, minimizes and otherwise makes totally insignificant, any collateral damage. So far so good.
We are at war, buckos.
UncleBuck
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there's no other choice, as every single last one does so. even your turtle fucking savior.
there's no option for "i don't care at all" or "yawn" or "OP is carrying water for manufactured right wing outrage", so i will not be voting.
how many libertarians do you know that espouse such a prude position that caters to right wing evangelicals?
do you believe that sex for reasons other than procreation is immoral? do you consider responsible family planning to be a problem?
UncleBuck
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you would make a shitty lawyer with arguments that weak.
OGEvilgenius
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Please post some nude pics of yourself, your SIN, your financial records, all personal email from the past 1000 days and nude pics of your wife too please.
You have nothing to hide bro!
lifegoesonbrah
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My fucking savior turtle got elected president and then did the opposite of his platform? I have been gone a while.
You don't care about civil liberties, brah?
about 4/10
no to both. Do you support warrantless search and seizure, drone strikes on children, more expensive healthcare, and people who say one thing then do the complete opposite?
nontheist
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decipher: YES I DO, I am a registered Obama nuthugger
decipher: It's cool when Democrats do it, partisans be damned.
Strawman because they're cool to burn down.
UncleBuck
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last i heard, you told me that he won.
i guess quietly retiring after fattening up the family fortune with moneybombs from duped pawlbots is about the same thing as winning the election in a second consecutive landslide.
i don't care if the government runs the numbers i have called up against a list of known terrorist numbers.
you must hang with a very repressed crowd, no one i know, even the very conservative, religious types considers sex for reasons other than procreation to be immoral like rawn pawl does.
now you're just going off the deep end.
if i wanted tangents, i would go do some calculus.
UncleBuck
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lifegoesonbrah
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So does this mean you support the KGB as well?
thats what she said.
Are you building up your anti civil liberties argument? Not sure where you are going with this...
GreenSummit
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I completely agree. It is wrong and must be stopped. Shouldnt matter whether we are at war or not, its bullshit regardless.