Do you medicate at work?
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WHATFG
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Do you ask all your employees to disclose the medications they take?
WHATFG
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See to me that's just picking a fight with me. You want to fire me just because I use mj as a medicine and choose not to disclose that to people? Well I have herpes too ( I don't ) should I disclose that to everyone as well so they don't drink out of the same glass as me or do I try and be discreet and respectful of all and drink out if my own glass?
leaffan
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My son got a disabled student coop gig with a bank at their Toronto corporate headquarters. Human Resources would not disclose anything to the department boss about his condition. I encouraged him to sit down with his boss and tell her about the condition and the different medications.
I suggested this so there would be a full understanding, and to avoid potential issues.
If he happens to have a bit of an herb odour after lunch his boss will know already and no issues.
He followed my advice and there have been zero problems.
I suggested this so there would be a full understanding, and to avoid potential issues.
If he happens to have a bit of an herb odour after lunch his boss will know already and no issues.
He followed my advice and there have been zero problems.
itsmehigh
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For argument sake.
As an employer I have an obligation to you and others working for me, to provide a safe work environment. When your hired you will need to disclose any medical conditions for me to provide you a safe job, and to be aware of any conditions in case of an emergency, to provide care to you.
When hired you will need to read our health and safety policy, If you don't agree with it, you know where the door is. It's my company, if you don't agree to my terms, too bad, find another job. I am more than happy to accommodate anyone's conditions, disclosure is key, otherwise you are acting fraudulently, and possible grounds for just cause.
Bc civil liberties.
Information about your health is among the most sensitive types of personal information. Yet your employer might need such information to manage you and to meet its duties to accommodate your disabilities and to protect other workers and the workplace.
Itsme.
As an employer I have an obligation to you and others working for me, to provide a safe work environment. When your hired you will need to disclose any medical conditions for me to provide you a safe job, and to be aware of any conditions in case of an emergency, to provide care to you.
When hired you will need to read our health and safety policy, If you don't agree with it, you know where the door is. It's my company, if you don't agree to my terms, too bad, find another job. I am more than happy to accommodate anyone's conditions, disclosure is key, otherwise you are acting fraudulently, and possible grounds for just cause.
Bc civil liberties.
Information about your health is among the most sensitive types of personal information. Yet your employer might need such information to manage you and to meet its duties to accommodate your disabilities and to protect other workers and the workplace.
Itsme.
leaffan
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Here in Ontario I think it's different...Human Resources could not legally disclose any information.
itsmehigh
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BC civil liberties.
Security is very important. Personal information should be protected so that only those other employees and managers who need to know the information may see it.
Security is very important. Personal information should be protected so that only those other employees and managers who need to know the information may see it.
- It is best practice to ensure that employee health information is generally held in a file that is kept physically separate from the general employee file that contains review and discipline information. Only those other employees who have a reasonable need to know the information should be able to see it.
- Even if a human resources department is given your health information, it may not be necessary to provide that information to your manager, who may have a need to know only the specific information about your return to work date, your impairments or requirements for accommodation.
- Employers with in-house occupational health and safety departments must ensure that health information is retained locally in that department with strict access controls to ensure the information is kept confidential.
WHATFG
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This almost sounds like wcb to me? There would be no need for any co-worker to know my medical info. Return to work dates, impairments, reqs for acc. These are all terms used by wcb for an injured worker. In house safety depts= big company to me.
I personally wouldn't have a problem letting anyone and everyone know that I use med mari....just don't think anyone would touch me with a ten foot pole as far a employment goes given the nature of my pain. I really hate the term disability and to be honest I didn't see what the big deal was until I got labelled.
itsmehigh
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That's the beauty of this industry, lots of low impact jobs, no heavy equipment no special education needed, it's very therapeutic working with the plants, and it's summer and warm every day in the grow rooms, it's like "light duty" every day. Once I run out of pretty girls to hire, I hope to bring in older/retired folks looking to make a few extra bucks (trimmers/pruners). I gots no worries if my crew medicates, a happy worker is a productive worker.
Itsme.
Itsme.
cannadan
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Medicate all day everyday at work
First thing I did was tell the people who I consult for that I was a legal mmj user
That way if they wanted rid
of me they could show me the door
They appreciated the fact I told them and have not had a problem with me medicating in the smoking area when I visit the plant and office
I work basically from home so there is zero issues
First thing I did was tell the people who I consult for that I was a legal mmj user
That way if they wanted rid
of me they could show me the door
They appreciated the fact I told them and have not had a problem with me medicating in the smoking area when I visit the plant and office
I work basically from home so there is zero issues
VIANARCHRIS
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I am actually going through the process right now, a little different work situation, but I've done a lot of research. The employer has a duty to accommodate, but that does not include allowing an employee to be 'impaired' at work. Pretty much saying you can't use your atp as an excuse to get high at work. They can ask for clarification from your doctor as to how often you medicate etc. The big one is safety...the employer has an obligation to ensure the safety of every one and that may require a mmj patient to do a job that doesn't involve risk.
CannaReview
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No but if you stink like weed obviously I'm gonna ask, you are at my business and its my business to know. If you look all fucked because of pain killers and you can't deal with the customers in an appropriate manner then you're on broom duty and you sure as hell not going to drive anywhere on company time if the drugs say not to operate any machinery.
If you got an ailment/injury that will affect your job that you are applying for and you didn't tell me this when I hired you, you obviously don't belong at the job since you're not qualified to perform the job.
WHATFG
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While I totally understand and agree that employers need to ensure the safety and well-being of their employees, who determines impairment? What "level" of impairment would one be "allowed" to work? Good questions ?? I would defy anyone to show that I'm impaired when I medicate - I am able to function. I'm not stumbling around, slurring my words...my eyes don't get red or half closed so who would be the wiser other than seeing me use it? And if I were to ingest it, it would be part of my meals and not obvious at all. So if I'm the secretary or the janitor for example, is using med mari going to "hinder" my ability to perform those duties? Shouldn't med mari be like other meds...you know operate machinery with caution or don't until you know how you react? I'm really liking this thread...good one!
VIANARCHRIS
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Good recent news article on the subject.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/clearing-the-air-on-medical-marijuana-in-the-workplace-1.1934967
http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/clearing-the-air-on-medical-marijuana-in-the-workplace-1.1934967
Jackal69
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besides isn't it probably the MMJ that allows you to work at a job in the first place
WHATFG
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I'm not trying to be cunt....but to be honest while I would have no problem disclosing my med mari use, I don't think it would be something I would automatically think to tell a potential employer, just like I wouldn't think to tell them about being on an anti - depressant or anti- seizure meds. It's not that I would be trying to hide it, it's just not something I would think to disclose unless asked. Does that make sense? My using med mari is like me having a cup of coffee in the morning...I do it without really thinking about it because it keeps my pain at a level that I can somewhat function throughout the day.
CannaReview
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As an employer you do have to accommodate the employee and there is nothing wrong with that as its as it should be but if your injury/meds are going to keep you from doing the work you were hired for and you can't do it in the long run I'm not gonna keep you around too long if you're not qualified for other duties. In a big
I know someone who got a job and was on anti seizure meds when he got the job as it was part of WCB back to work. He went to school for training (for quite a while) and got the job as he was good at what he did He was doing fine till his seizure/massive headaches started to be more common (he got them from an accident at a previous job). Since his job would have involved going on ladders and him possibly having a seizure while on one, he couldn't do the job any more and the business had to let him go since he wasn't qualified to do other duties at the place. WCB agreed on it and allowed him to go back to school.
Well if I applied for a job where lifting was required all day and I didn't tell my employer that I had a herniated disk and a few day in I can't do the job because of back pain I'd expect to be let go since I didn't tell them my injury would affect my duties.
WHATFG
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I see loopholes there...not big ones but loopholes all the same. For example if an employee chooses not to disclose and then is discovered (even sounds funny)using and trying to pull it out at the 11th hour.....
WHATFG
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Hey canna....as an injured worker with a low back injury, if the doc gives you the all clear....this is why I don't think anyone would hire me
Me :
oh by the way, I'm a med mari patient. I suffer from chronic pain due to 4 back surgeries as a result of an injury at work. The doc says I'm good to go back to work.
And because I would be such a huge liability to any potential employer, the job would go to someone more qualified, more,educated blah, blah, blah.
Me :
oh by the way, I'm a med mari patient. I suffer from chronic pain due to 4 back surgeries as a result of an injury at work. The doc says I'm good to go back to work.
And because I would be such a huge liability to any potential employer, the job would go to someone more qualified, more,educated blah, blah, blah.