Do You Keep Mother Plants?

Rdubz

Rdubz

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I would like get different ideas on what medium anyone uses, Are you keeping mothers in a hydro setup or just bucket and dirt ? Anyway, I would love to hear about what anyone has !

So I just got 11 Fem seeds they are Gluebert ( Gorilla Glue#4 x Sherbert ) little pheno hunting and then I'm keeping one but I want to keep it forever and then I'm going to want to do that same for another strain .
 
Rdubz

Rdubz

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Renfro said:
I prefer to put mothers in soil / soiless mix. Hydro tends to make for hollow stems that are difficult to root.
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ya I'm thinking it's going to be nice not to have to worry about something in the grow room you make a valid point and if I want to keep for years to come it's just going to be all-round better soil/soiless mix
 
Renfro

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Rdubz said:
ya I'm thinking it's going to be nice not to have to worry about something in the grow room you make a valid point and if I want to keep for years to come it's just going to be all-round better soil/soiless mix
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There is really no reason to keep the original mother forever. I have done clone of a clone on one strain for as long as 7 years with no sign of any genetic degradation. In able to avoid mothers eating into my plant count I would cut monster cropped clones about 20 days into 12/12. I did that with GG4 for example, for about 3.5 years. I would always cut extra clones and take the best ones to pot for the next round. Since my veg times are long (trees) I didn't have to waste any plant count on mothers. My count was 24 and I ran 12 in flower and add the monster cropped clones for the next round I had 24 plants. Now I have a 74 count so I don't need to sweat it and I can run 22 - 28 trees and have another round vegging and keep some mothers.

If you were to keep a mother for a year or so and then replace it with a clone, I am sure that you could sustain this for decades. I have one buddy that is a collector of old school stuff. He has cuts that have been going since the 90's and they are just as good as the day he started them. He typically replaces his mothers with a clone after 1.5 - 2 years.
 
bodhipop

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Renfro said:
There is really no reason to keep the original mother forever. I have done clone of a clone on one strain for as long as 7 years with no sign of any genetic degradation. In able to avoid mothers eating into my plant count I would cut monster cropped clones about 20 days into 12/12. I did that with GG4 for example, for about 3.5 years. I would always cut extra clones and take the best ones to pot for the next round. Since my veg times are long (trees) I didn't have to waste any plant count on mothers. My count was 24 and I ran 12 in flower and add the monster cropped clones for the next round I had 24 plants. Now I have a 74 count so I don't need to sweat it and I can run 22 - 28 trees and have another round vegging and keep some mothers.

If you were to keep a mother for a year or so and then replace it with a clone, I am sure that you could sustain this for decades. I have one buddy that is a collector of old school stuff. He has cuts that have been going since the 90's and they are just as good as the day he started them. He typically replaces his mothers with a clone after 1.5 - 2 years.
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Do you mind sharing your experience with scoring your new plant count? Last time I got my card in Foco the options were 6, 12, 24.
 
Renfro

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bodhipop said:
Do you mind sharing your experience with scoring your new plant count? Last time I got my card in Foco the options were 6, 12, 24.
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I have been with that doctor for 8 years, every year for my renewal. My actual doctor saw me for the first 5 years but he's getting old and he has medical conditions Parkinsons, so he has had other doctors fill his clinics for him. When I went in for year 7 renewal the doc was a different one working for the other dr., first time I had seen this guy, he was younger and acted like he had too much coffee. He was asking me about if I could use more plants lol, I was like well it sure would be nice to be able to run more different strains to have more variety, I didn't expect he would jack me all the way from 24 to 74 but that was the number he came up with. They can prescribe up to 99 plants. I figure that he saw the opportunity to make more money since I had been with them for so long as a patient and never any issues. That probably makes it easier for them to get with instead of being a new patient. They have MRI images of my spine from 2011 - 2012 and they have all my medical records from the fall, spinal injury, surgery. So they do have solid documentation to backup my injury.
 
bodhipop

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Renfro said:
I have been with that doctor for 8 years, every year for my renewal. My actual doctor saw me for the first 5 years but he's getting old and he has medical conditions Parkinsons, so he has had other doctors fill his clinics for him. When I went in for year 7 renewal the doc was a different one working for the other dr., first time I had seen this guy, he was younger and acted like he had too much coffee. He was asking me about if I could use more plants lol, I was like well it sure would be nice to be able to run more different strains to have more variety, I didn't expect he would jack me all the way from 24 to 74 but that was the number he came up with. They can prescribe up to 99 plants. I figure that he saw the opportunity to make more money since I had been with them for so long as a patient and never any issues. That probably makes it easier for them to get with instead of being a new patient. They have MRI images of my spine from 2011 - 2012 and they have all my medical records from the fall, spinal injury, surgery. So they do have solid documentation to backup my injury.
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lol, too much coffee.
That's exciting! Congrats on that.
 
Rdubz

Rdubz

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Renfro said:
There is really no reason to keep the original mother forever. I have done clone of a clone on one strain for as long as 7 years with no sign of any genetic degradation. In able to avoid mothers eating into my plant count I would cut monster cropped clones about 20 days into 12/12. I did that with GG4 for example, for about 3.5 years. I would always cut extra clones and take the best ones to pot for the next round. Since my veg times are long (trees) I didn't have to waste any plant count on mothers. My count was 24 and I ran 12 in flower and add the monster cropped clones for the next round I had 24 plants. Now I have a 74 count so I don't need to sweat it and I can run 22 - 28 trees and have another round vegging and keep some mothers.

If you were to keep a mother for a year or so and then replace it with a clone, I am sure that you could sustain this for decades. I have one buddy that is a collector of old school stuff. He has cuts that have been going since the 90's and they are just as good as the day he started them. He typically replaces his mothers with a clone after 1.5 - 2 years.
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ok that's a solid way to do things Im sure you would never be able to tell if you cut from the original seed or clone to clone to clone , I think for me it's more simbolic lol , for one thing I don't need worry about plant count Im good for 500 plants I'll never have that many and another would be less genetic defects witch may only accurre like what 5% of the time . Your not wrong Though i think I will do what your buddy does hang on to them for a year or 2 and switch with a clone ! Thanks for your input!
 
Renfro

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The only instance I heard of a plant genetically fucking up after long and successive cloning was a buddy grew a romulan cut for around 5 or 6 years, he gave the cut to a buddy to hold and grow as it was a good money maker for them. His buddy grew it for a while and then reported that it suddenly hermied out like actual balls not bananas. I suspect that his buddy just mixed up a cut when re-mothering or something but I dunno really.
 
Rdubz

Rdubz

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Renfro said:
The only instance I heard of a plant genetically fucking up after long and successive cloning was a buddy grew a romulan cut for around 5 or 6 years, he gave the cut to a buddy to hold and grow as it was a good money maker for them. His buddy grew it for a while and then reported that it suddenly hermied out like actual balls not bananas. I suspect that his buddy just mixed up a cut when re-mothering or something but I dunno really.
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Wow so it didn't matter any clones cut off would hermie , that would suck if that happened to your last clone SMH
 
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