Do we really need dispensaries in Az?

Just want to get your guy's feelings on this subject.

My personal feelings is No.

I rather just grow the stuff myself and network with other Card carriers.

JMHO

Then I can stay compliant with the No dispensary with in 25 miles part of the law.
Grow your own shit.

I think it would be easier to say yes, if dispensaries weren't charging more for their products than a street corner drug dealer. From what I have seen so far, I would definitely say no.

I would much rather grow my own and trade meds with you guys for other strains. Id rather put money in your pockets than a big business that overcharges by 400%. Dispensaries are going to ruin it for the cardholders if they keep up what they are doing.

combatdoc0315 said:

I think it would be easier to say yes, if dispensaries weren't charging more for their products than a street corner drug dealer. From what I have seen so far, I would definitely say no.

I would much rather grow my own and trade meds with you guys for other strains. Id rather put money in your pockets than a big business that overcharges by 400%. Dispensaries are going to ruin it for the cardholders if they keep up what they are doing.

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I agree with you brother.

ok im hearing alot of shit about these places whats the deal i live in a illegal state what dont i no about pot stores?

I doubt that there will ever be a dispensary near me, thankfully. I'm in a pretty small populated part of AZ.

And Silasraven... google a little bit. Basically Feds in a lot of the states are cracking down on dispensaries. In Cali, they were given 45 days to close shop. Building owners and landlords were told their places would be seized and they would be arrested if they allowed dispensaries to continue. Banks who had dispensary accounts closed their accounts and were threatened by the Feds and now the IRS is going after big dispensaries. One dispensary was caught with two 16 year olds smoking inside. There is much more to it, but that is the short version. Check the stories out.. They are pretty interesting and seem like they brought it on themselves. Hope they had a bunch of cash stashed in their mattresses and they are on a flight to some countries that the US has no interests in. I know I would be, if I was a prior dispensary owner.
Dispensaries took advantage of their positions and charged astronomical prices which obviously is not really helping a legal patient at all. I read an article about one dispensary who was making 12,000$ a day in Cali. Pretty crazy..

Not everyone is able to grow, not everyone wants to.

I want dispensaries, clubs, etc.

Choice is my most important issue right after safety and availability. I won't buy blood diamonds or blood medicine. Price will be driven down by competition, but more importantly when the medicine *isn't* contraband. The federal attack on cannabis is to blame. Not the entrepreneurs.

I see what you are saying J9BLACK and although I agree for the most part.... Cali has shown us that price isn't always driven down by more competition. An article I just read said," there were more dispensaries in Cali than Starbucks" and from price lists I saw, they all charged relatively the same price. Which was still more than getting it on the street. A ton of businesses and still overcharging. They found a legal loophole that allowed them to operate and cash in on it. They had to know that it wouldn't last forever.

I do agree with choice, but I believe dispensaries shouldn't be taking advantage of people. If you want to pay those prices then it's all you. Ill take my chances with making friends who also hold cards to be able to help me and for me to help them.. Id be happy to help anybody who doesn't want to grow their own, and I am sure there are many others too.

combatdoc0315 said:

I see what you are saying J9BLACK and although I agree for the most part.... Cali has shown us that price isn't always driven down by more competition. An article I just read said," there were more dispensaries in Cali than Starbucks" and from price lists I saw, they all charged relatively the same price. Which was still more than getting it on the street. A ton of businesses and still overcharging. They found a legal loophole that allowed them to operate and cash in on it. They had to know that it wouldn't last forever.

I do agree with choice, but I believe dispensaries shouldn't be taking advantage of people. If you want to pay those prices then it's all you. Ill take my chances with making friends who also hold cards to be able to help me and for me to help them.. Id be happy to help anybody who doesn't want to grow their own, and I am sure there are many others too.

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wheres that at i went searching and didnt find it anywhere typed it so many different ways

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2011-10-20/news/in-a-strange-about-face-the-president-tries-to-hack-medical-marijuana-off-at-the-knees/

And Ill try to find the price lists again.. and post them..... Its been about a week or more since I was looking at them.. Ill have to go through my history..

Can we just keep this thread as constructive as it is now? Haha I just see this being a heavily debated topic. Let's just have no problems! Ok continue lmao sorry I'm

combatdoc0315 said:

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2011-10-20/news/in-a-strange-about-face-the-president-tries-to-hack-medical-marijuana-off-at-the-knees/

And Ill try to find the price lists again.. and post them..... Its been about a week or more since I was looking at them.. Ill have to go through my history..

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Just look at weedmpas and search california. They have full menus on there haha

Well there you go Silas... Check that stuff out..

Scupra, thanks for helping a brotha out.. I appreciate it!

combatdoc0315 said:

Well there you go Silas... Check that stuff out..

Scupra, thanks for helping a brotha out.. I appreciate it!

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Anytime. If any of you have an android phone the app is awesome. Helped me out in Cali

for the lazy

http://legalmarijuanadispensary.com/?option=com_content&view=article&id=7482&Itemid=118

it would be cool if there were dispensary's, if the option to cultivate was still available its messed up them to say you can have one but not both. options=choices=freedom

@combat, I like your response but I disagree. There is no state of the union where cannabis is produced and sold as a commodity like coffee. The cottage industry "legal" producers (conflict free) of the US are at the exact same risk--some argue greater risk under the Obama administration--as the illegal ones.

The war on drugs has been a colossal failure.

If Obama wins a second term, I expect full decriminalization. Short of that, he is a betrayer to himself.

@combat, I would like to connect/network with you. The $350 I spent on the ounce last night didn't bother me as much as the fact that the seller was not a patient and was at risk because of my "demand". I will PM vitals.

A word to the wise, You never know who is posting/reading the forums. If you chose to illegally purchase meds & risk losing your mmj green card you probably shouldn't tell the world or ask others to get involved . . .

Quite laughable that anyone would think dispensaries would help to drive the cost down in any way. You only have to look at states with them (dispensaries)to see the reality.
As long as we play by the rules and are free to grow & trade/share with other mmj patients the pricing will be more than fair as compared to set pricing by the dispensary group. You can already trade meds cheaper than dispensaries will charge if they are allowed to open (which they won't be).
I will be more than happy the rest of my life if nothing ever changes with our state law & the way it is being enforced right now.


(I won't buy blood diamonds (?)

i know oregon and washington dont really have dispensaries. primarily patient caregiver system and the price of meds is somewhere around 180-250 an oz. the fewer hands the medicine goes through, the cheaper the consumer price will be. those states are closer to canada and do get an influx of bc bud adding to the supply and lowering the price more.

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it would be cool if there were dispensary's, if the option to cultivate was still available its messed up them to say you can have one but not both. options=choices=freedom

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The way the law was written sounds like its all about making the dispensaries money. Basically you cant provide your own meds if you live near one.