Do these looking ok for 3 weeks 5 days off flower? (First Grow)

swedsteven

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Nitrogen keep the plant green bloom or boster pk make them yellow most off the time is because off locking up nutrient by giving to much bloom but your plant look like they miss nitrogen give ur bases nutrient that have the more nitrogen "grow" they wont come back green but will slow down the yellowing ur temperature are perfect .
 

Steve7878

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https://www.growweedeasy.com/nitrogen-deficiency-cannabis
I have no doubt that nitrogen is being displaced, but I'm sincerely doubting it's the cause of the issue.
I agree with you, especially since it's only affecting the ones getting the most light. I know lumens isn't the greatest gauge but the ones with the most light are getting 160,000-180,000 lumens. The light are gar enough away though so no light burn. What I dont understand is why are a few away from the lights dark green like they had too much nitrogen. They all get the same amount of nutes.
 

Steve7878

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https://www.growweedeasy.com/nitrogen-deficiency-cannabis
I have no doubt that nitrogen is being displaced, but I'm sincerely doubting it's the cause of the issue.
Hey Logan, I think I'm going to start a new thread in the sick plant section tommorow. Apparently this is normal but in the late flowering cycle like week 7 or 8 and is actually a good thing because it means you wont taste the nutes in the buds when smoked. I was looking at threads where this happens in late flowering and the buds are the same size as mine are! Mine are only starting there 5th week tommorow so they have another 4 to 5 weeks left! I can only imagine how big these buds will get in the end!

Tommorow I will post new pics with all the lights off and just have natural lights on them so they can be diagnosed better and start a new thread in the sick plant section describing my issues, I really value your input and would really appreciate your input on my new thread tommorow with only natural light on them and maybe get a better look at things. Thanks Logan.
 

Steve7878

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Nitrogen keep the plant green bloom or boster pk make them yellow most off the time is because off locking up nutrient by giving to much bloom but your plant look like they miss nitrogen give ur bases nutrient that have the more nitrogen "grow" they wont come back green but will slow down the yellowing ur temperature are perfect .
I really dont think giving them more nitrogen will help. I give them 1 teaspoon of grow big and the max dose is 2 teaspoons. Plus they get a little nitrogen from big bloom, tiger bloom, and beastie blooms which I'm currently giving them. Something else has to be going on. Its also not affecting all the plants just the ones with the most light. In fact a few on the outside are dark green like they have had nitrogen toxicity. Very strange behavior.
 

swedsteven

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Lol when i was using hps it was doing the same ...10years growing and let me tell you try to give less bloom bases nute to the one in the midle or half grow half bloom trust me just try next grow give it a shot ur plant dont look like they are burning but to much phosphor make the plant leaf darker and the plant in the middle use more nute to ... trying to help guys. Im in a organic soil water only with a couple top feed no more nute for me.

Keep it green !
 

Porky101

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Your plants look great! well done!

Mine are starting to turn yellow @ week 6. Should I add more calmag? I am loosing one big fan leaf a day (its going yellow and falling off) at this rate im loosing too many leaves....How quickly should one let the plant starve?
 

Logan Burke

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I'm so happy I could be of use Steve! As for you Porky, would it be possible for me to see a picture of your baby or babies? Is it a sativa dominate strain, indica dominant?....Do you have other plants of the same strain and age showing these symptoms, or just one?...I'll help as much as I'm able too!
 

Logan Burke

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I also meant to say, do not go adding any other nutrients to your feeding schedule until we at least narrow down the cause. Cal-mag can be a very double edged sword at this stage of fruiting. But it is always good to have on hand!
 

Porky101

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I also meant to say, do not go adding any other nutrients to your feeding schedule until we at least narrow down the cause. Cal-mag can be a very double edged sword at this stage of fruiting. But it is always good to have on hand!
Too late:(

I went and took 2l of feed water (1.3EC (0.3 is calmag)) and I added another 0.3 of calmag (so 1.6). I did that the past two days...

It is an indica dominant straint, coco, PH 6. EC 1.3. 82F CXB 3590. 70%h. 800umol avg. plants look healthy but they look hungry...especially N, their leaves are fading faster than I would like...I could add more bloom nutes which contain some N in it, but I thought just calmag would do the trick...

thanks!
 

Steve7878

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I'm so happy I could be of use Steve! As for you Porky, would it be possible for me to see a picture of your baby or babies? Is it a sativa dominate strain, indica dominant?....Do you have other plants of the same strain and age showing these symptoms, or just one?...I'll help as much as I'm able too!
Ya I'm almost positive it's a pk issue, it has all the signs including purple stems but that could also be genetics since it is grand daddy purple. I have 5000 watts of light and it's mainly the ones right under the lights. I'm going to double there bloom nutes. It's ok though I'll still be under the max dose. I just think they really need it. As for the dark green outside ones I looked it up and it says those are the first signs of a pk deficiency or bluish and shiny. If this was like week 7 or 8 I wouldnt really care in fact I read it's a good thing but I just started week 5 so I think something needs to be done. Thanks again and I'll let you know how it goes!
 

Steve7878

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Your plants look great! well done!

Mine are starting to turn yellow @ week 6. Should I add more calmag? I am loosing one big fan leaf a day (its going yellow and falling off) at this rate im loosing too many leaves....How quickly should one let the plant starve?
Thanks Porky! Just curious are you using a lot of lights too? Maybe it's a pk issue like I might have, you should post some pics of your girls.
 

Steve7878

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Too late:(

I went and took 2l of feed water (1.3EC (0.3 is calmag)) and I added another 0.3 of calmag (so 1.6). I did that the past two days...

It is an indica dominant straint, coco, PH 6. EC 1.3. 82F CXB 3590. 70%h. 800umol avg. plants look healthy but they look hungry...especially N, their leaves are fading faster than I would like...I could add more bloom nutes which contain some N in it, but I thought just calmag would do the trick...

thanks!
Did you say your humidity is 70%? If it is that's way too high and may be apart of your problem.
 

Porky101

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Did you say your humidity is 70%? If it is that's way too high and may be apart of your problem.

Thanks for your reply Steve!

The humidity is relative too the temprature, 82 F @70% humidity is the similar to 77F @ 50% humidity. I can assure you, even 80% humidity @84F is perfectly acceptable.

I am running around 1,000Umols. I dont think it is a PK issue, as the only issue seems to be the plants are fading yellow faster than I would like. I believe it either needs more food or perhaps it is fading fine and im just being a bit over protective:D I will see how this plant turns out and will adjust accordingly. Its a fine balance, you want them too fade but not too fast....

Peace man!
 

Steve7878

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Thanks for your reply Steve!

The humidity is relative too the temprature, 82 F @70% humidity is the similar to 77F @ 50% humidity. I can assure you, even 80% humidity @84F is perfectly acceptable.

I am running around 1,000Umols. I dont think it is a PK issue, as the only issue seems to be the plants are fading yellow faster than I would like. I believe it either needs more food or perhaps it is fading fine and im just being a bit over protective:D I will see how this plant turns out and will adjust accordingly. Its a fine balance, you want them too fade but not too fast....

Peace man!
Well it sounds like you know what your doing. Ya your right you want them to fade yellow just not too fast and not too early. You would be the best judge of your plants!

This is my first grow but I research a lot and I was just told that you want no more than around 50% RH but it sounds like you got it handled. Good luck, I hope they turn out dynamite!
 

Porky101

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Well it sounds like you know what your doing. Ya your right you want them to fade yellow just not too fast and not too early. You would be the best judge of your plants!

This is my first grow but I research a lot and I was just told that you want no more than around 50% RH but it sounds like you got it handled. Good luck, I hope they turn out dynamite!

Thanks Steve.

Staying under 50 humidity is a bad way to go about humidity as humidity is relative to air temperature..

50 percent humidity at 72f is fine, 50 percent humidity at 82f is too low.


The reason why they say you want to be below 50 percent is to avoid bud rot.

The thing is, are we after an environment that promotes growth or an environment that impedes bud rot?

What you want is both. High humidity when lights are on and low humidity when lights are off. This way when the plant is growing your giving it high humidity which means more better growth then when lights are off you want low humidity to prevent rot and mold.
 

Steve7878

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Ya I know high humidity causes bud rot and mold. I've never heard of wanting high humidity during flowering when lights are on though. I know high humidity during seedling stage is good to promote root growth. I know for my strain, grand daddy purple for it to grow optimally you want to stay at 50% humidity.

Do you have any links that I can look at showing that high humidity during flowering is good by any chance?
 

Porky101

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Ya I know high humidity causes bud rot and mold. I've never heard of wanting high humidity during flowering when lights are on though. I know high humidity during seedling stage is good to promote root growth. I know for my strain, grand daddy purple for it to grow optimally you want to stay at 50% humidity.

Do you have any links that I can look at showing that high humidity during flowering is good by any chance?
Ill search for some links for you.

Its not simply about having "high humidity" its about the environment. 50% humidity @ 70F is not = 50% humidity at 77F.

You want higher temps, higher humidity, higher co2 concentrations, more light.

Optimal growth on these plants occur @ 32c 1500PPM co2 80% humidity, 1500umols. You cant get a better environment than that....just as an example. End of flower you would lower humidity purely to reduce bud rot issues.

Obviously different strains will be different, that is just a general idea.
 

Steve7878

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Ill search for some links for you.

Its not simply about having "high humidity" its about the environment. 50% humidity @ 70F is not = 50% humidity at 77F.

You want higher temps, higher humidity, higher co2 concentrations, more light.

Optimal growth on these plants occur @ 32c 1500PPM co2 80% humidity, 1500umols. You cant get a better environment than that....just as an example. End of flower you would lower humidity purely to reduce bud rot issues.

Obviously different strains will be different, that is just a general idea.
Oh ya I've heard when running higher co2 levels you want higher humidity. I'm not running co2 though. I probably would of if I understood how to use it but I dont lol. I currently keep my day temps at around 75-78f and night at 62-65f. My humidity with lights on is 45-55 and lights off about the same.

Thanks I would really appreciate that link! Never can learn too much.
 
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