Do Not Vote For Legalization Or You Are Stupid

estesj said:

Y'all are in hippie dream land if you ever think that legalizing weed is ever coming up to vote on! The only big weed deals where people get killed are the ones with a bunch of bricks of mexi pressed reggie swag!

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Keenly said:

looks like your the one in dream land

been on the california ballot for years, so its safe to say you have no idea what your talking about

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estesj said:

which makes you a retail buyer smart guy. You sound like the typical jealous player hater. Grow some balls and learn how to grow and you wont have to be a $100 a quarter buying chump all your life! Putting a weed dealer in the same boat as the mexican mafia is idiotic.

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MoN3yb4Gs said:

You may be the naive one thinking that the gov't isn't going to big dick this issue like they do everything else..

Both synthetic heroin, and meth are legal thus their legalization...and daily use by many...
However, that's only because this "private industry" (pharmacy corporations) are a money maker for the govt. Health care is the real biggest money maker in this bitch.
You don't think pot will end up the same way, after so many "private industries" manipulate the product on a cellular level that The FDA steps in, regulates, and controls it..

And... WHO do you think regulates, and controls these private multi-billion dollar tax paying pharmacopoeia corporate conglomerates...? THE FDA!
So... in essence YES, the govt would be growing it. The FDA... who is a govt agency would regulate the fuct out if it, thus having total control. It would end up being like pills without a prescription. So, now... Instead of a misdemeanor crime before legalization, it may end up being a felony charge. I know if you posses a pill of a controlled substance here in Washington state, and you do not have a prescription for it you'll be catching felony charges, and possible prison time.... That's one felony per pill that you don't have a scrip for. What would they end up doing? One felony per gram?
There's definitely something to think about that...


I agree, hemp has the market cornered. However, once legalization happens you don't think corporations like Monsanto will step in and Genetically modify this organism.. Just like they do every other one. You know all that High Fructose Corn syrup you ingest. Well, most of it comes from Monsanto's GMO Corn. Which they own copyrights, and patents to the seed of... think about it. THEY OWN THE COPYRIGHT TO THE CORN SEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE ELSE CAN USE IT WITHOUT THEIR WRITTEN PERMISSION>
Is it entirely possible that this could happen with hemp... ABSOLUTELY>! Here is just a taste. Do you even know the level your dealing with here bud? Don't fuck with me, I know my shit. "With Monsanto's patented genes being inserted into roughly 95 percent of all soybeans and 80 percent of all corn grown in the U.S., ..." http://www.star-telegram.com/238/story/1827990.html

"By CHRISTOPHER LEONARD
The Associated Press
ST. LOUIS — Confidential contracts detailing Monsanto Co.’s business practices reveal how the world’s biggest seed developer is squeezing competitors, controlling smaller seed companies and protecting its dominance over the multibillion-dollar market for genetically altered crops, an Associated Press investigation has found.
With Monsanto’s patented genes being inserted into roughly 95 percent of all soybeans and 80 percent of all corn grown in the U.S., the company is also using its reach to control the ability of new biotech companies to get wide distribution for their products, according to a review of several Monsanto licensing agreements and interviews with agriculture and legal experts.
Declining competition in the seed business could lead to price hikes that ripple out to every family’s dinner table. The corn flakes you may have had for breakfast, the soda you may have drunk at lunch and the beef stew you may have eaten for dinner were likely produced from crops grown with Monsanto’s patented genes.
Monsanto’s methods are spelled out in confidential commercial licensing agreements obtained by the AP.
The company has used the agreements to spread its technology, giving some 200 smaller companies the right to insert Monsanto’s genes in their separate strains of corn and soybean plants. But, the AP found, access to Monsanto’s genes comes with plenty of strings attached.
For example, one contract provision bans independent companies from breeding plants that contain both Monsanto’s genes and the genes of any of its competitors unless Monsanto gives written permission — letting Monsanto effectively lock out competitors from inserting their patented traits into the vast share of U.S. crops that already contain Monsanto’s genes.
Monsanto’s business strategies and licensing agreements are being investigated by the U.S. Justice Department and at least two state attorneys general, who are trying to determine whether the practices violate U.S. antitrust laws. The practices are also at the heart of civil antitrust suits filed against Monsanto by its competitors, including a 2004 suit by Syngenta AG that was settled with an agreement and ongoing litigation filed this summer by DuPont in response to a Monsanto lawsuit.
Monsanto, based in suburban St. Louis, said it’s done nothing wrong.
"We do not believe there is any merit to allegations about our licensing agreement or the terms within," Monsanto spokesman Lee Quarles said.
"Our approach to licensing [with] many companies is pro-competitive and has enabled literally hundreds of seed companies, including all of our major direct competitors, to offer thousands of new seed products to farmers," he said.
The benefit of Monsanto’s technology for farmers has been undeniable, but some of its major competitors and smaller seed companies say the company is using strong-arm tactics to further its control.
"We now believe that Monsanto has control over as much as 90 percent of [seed genetics]. This level of control is almost unbelievable," said Neil Harl, an agricultural economist at Iowa State University who has studied the seed industry for decades. "The upshot of that is that it’s tightening Monsanto’s control and makes it possible for them to increase their prices long-term. And we’ve seen this happening the last five years, and the end is not in sight."
At issue is how much power one company can have over seeds, the foundation of the world’s food supply. Without stiff competition, Monsanto could raise its seed prices at will, which in turn could raise the cost of everything from animal feed to wheat bread and cookies.
The price of seeds is already rising. Monsanto increased some corn seed prices last year by 25 percent, with an additional 7 percent hike planned for corn seeds in 2010. The price of Monsanto soybean seeds climbed 28 percent last year."


ps... Do not insult my intelligence! ..My reasoning is my own, for my own reasons.... if you don't agree with me then please, by all means help me to understand why...
I'm just stating my opinion like anyone else... thanks...

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estesj said:

Thats one hippie new age state. Big fucking deal! No lives lost to drug dealing do not count. You know what your getting yourself into when you choose that lifestyle! That goes for me too! Now go put some some shoes on and wash your wool poncho. Peace brotha.

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dontexist21 said:

Wow I am a hippy because I believe in free market forces, and people not getting arrested for a plant. Not like getting called a hippie by a drug dealer who only can make survive in the black market and profits off of the misery of others is the worst thing that has happened to me.

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dontexist21 said:

I just stated that both the dealer and the mafia both profit off of weed being illegal. I also would like the ability to not be fired for a drug test, the jobs which I am hoping to get will drug test and then fire me if I came up positive. I think you are just scared since you are not smart enough to work on a non black market level.

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Keenly said:

dude just wants to make money

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Dan Kone said:

You have my vote for president in 2012.

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Keenly said:

well, here is how my brain works


we have a choice of sending people to prison, for smoking weed, harassment by law enforcement, no help enforcing the law from law enforcement (I.E. stealing your plants, they wouldnt care)

OR


some people can not make money off of it



i choose the latter, as the former affects way more people negatively than the latter

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estesj said:

Nobody has ever gone to prison for smoking weed!

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Keenly said:

this statement is so incorrect i dont even have words for it

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estesj said:

I think you are getting jail and prison confused my friend.

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Keenly said:

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not really

jail is where you go after being arrested and prison is where you go after being sentenced

pretty simple

but i guess its ok people get arrested for weed period as long as your making your quick buck right?

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