DNA Database

I've always been annoyed with all the names weed gets when there is no way to verify it's true provenance. I've been wondering for years why there wasnt some genetic database setup somewhere.
im admittedly not a scientist. dont know much about genetics and dna. other than what I get from CSI Miami.
I understand there are some legal issues and maybe breeders dont want to be tagged to a strain or whatever.

But as it gets more legal and at the same time more and more hybrids are released wouldnt now be the time to get the database started? before its all so washed out well never find what came from where?

to the same end would it be possible you could then verify that somebody shitstink brown x blueberry fruit dongler actually had those parents. assuming the parents are in the database.

I see some problems like how to trust that the database is correct. who gets to decide that forever after this guys haze is the haze..

As it stands now I can sell seeds and say they are the fireass gsc forum cuts x nevils haze. Who are you to dispute it? some random chatter in the forums. Id say most people buying MY fire nevil GSC wont come looking for info on it. Possibly the person buying the seeds. But honestly I bought seeds a few times based on pictures. I didnt have any idea there was a part of the forum where people debate where strains come from and whos lying and whos a scumbag.

Maybe this topic has come up before? links?


Oh and after typing this I found that a DB has already been started. by the fucking cops...
http://www.newhaven.edu/news-events/UNH-in-the-media/2011-12/195154/

I just read the article, sounds like a big waste of money. How are you going to tie back a bag of a heavily cloned strain to anything? I'll bet you most of the black-market weed out there is from heavily cloned strains.

yea i dont know enough about dna to know if a seed has the same dna as the next seed if they had the same parents. I assume not or there would be no phenos. so if one big grower in mexico was using the same seed stock year after year maybe that could be tracked? idk. maybe if they only grew from clone from a seed mother and the clones never got out of that area.

SC Labs will be offering the genetics testing service soon.

http://www.scanalytical.com/services/testing.html

Genetic testing and strain verification. Coming Soon...

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My understand is Chimera and Tom Hill are both working in cooperation to genetically map cannabis for this purpose.

They're also going to be releasing clone only in seed form, although I will say this might be ambitious as I think it's going to require some potentially nasty recessive traits to surface if I understand the process correctly - on their end (the end result should indeed be a genetically identical plant assuming these recessive qualities are not lethal).

Basically they split alleles down the middle, clone and duplicate and then grow out each plant respectively and then cross them back again. It's not unlike what I suggested MrEE do with his attempts at recreating blue dream from the clone except they have genetic equipment, a lab and such as well as the know how to do this. Pretty interesting project in my estimation.

IE: You have a plant that is Aa.

They split it down the middle to be A and a. Then they make AA and aa plants out of those using what I can only assume is some kind of lab technique to duplicate the sides perfectly. Grow out the AA and aa plants, cross them and every plant will be Aa. That's a gross simplification but it works even with a plant containing thousands of alleles.

well im glad I wasnt the first one to think of it

I would think they could go back to land race strains and tag them and see where they turned up in hybrids telling you what they came from..kind of.
But if i were breeding seeds for a living i think i might give the people who i sale them to a general description of what was used to obtain the cross.
But no one would ever know how i did it or exactly what i did.This is how i would be making my living why would i tell anyone exactly how i did it to get a specific cross.
There is a pile of information on cubing and creating stabilized plants.But there is always the freak of nature for whatever reason that just cant be duplicated.

ahh the dirty profit thing comes into play yes
my interest was actually not in copying a strain. Im more interested in clearing up all the bullshit.
Think how much smaller a lot of threads would be if there was a way to call BS on pollen chuckers saying their male was this and fem was this. cough RD cough.

OGEvilgenius said:

My understand is Chimera and Tom Hill are both working in cooperation to genetically map cannabis for this purpose.

They're also going to be releasing clone only in seed form, although I will say this might be ambitious as I think it's going to require some potentially nasty recessive traits to surface if I understand the process correctly - on their end (the end result should indeed be a genetically identical plant assuming these recessive qualities are not lethal).

Basically they split alleles down the middle, clone and duplicate and then grow out each plant respectively and then cross them back again. It's not unlike what I suggested MrEE do with his attempts at recreating blue dream from the clone except they have genetic equipment, a lab and such as well as the know how to do this. Pretty interesting project in my estimation.

IE: You have a plant that is Aa.

They split it down the middle to be A and a. Then they make AA and aa plants out of those using what I can only assume is some kind of lab technique to duplicate the sides perfectly. Grow out the AA and aa plants, cross them and every plant will be Aa. That's a gross simplification but it works even with a plant containing thousands of alleles.

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I do plan on taking your suggestion and even trying some other things with it.
Even if they find a reccesive trait or two that can't be worked with you could still use hybrid genotypes in there place and get a decent percentage of plants genetically identical to the original clone. The bigger worry is that you'll end up with a few nasty recessives all stacked together. The plant equivalent of having cystic fibrosis and sickle cell anemia together. Though I guess they could be spread among the two parents to keep one from being to fucked up to breed.
I'll have to start following their project as I'm extremely interested in how it goes.