DMT... aliens or god? What is the 'presence'

ineverveg

ineverveg

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Just wondering what peoples views are on what the 'presence' is...

So in my head its a toss up between god vs aliens ,I myself view them as aliens, even if they are elves, that's still aliens to me.
This is a thread for people whom actually take DMT to discuss what they believe the crack is, and not an alien debunking discussion by science dudes who have never partaken , its a question of DMT and exactly what you think that presence is! like WTF
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Ok, first off - you start off your thread with a false dichotomy. <---- CLICK HERE

It's not either 'god' or 'aliens' - there is a plethora of other phenomenon it could be attributed to.

It's also a loaded question. Instead of asking a general question about people's experiences on DMT, you loaded the question, and are searching for what you want to hear, instead of searching for information in general. It seems you only want information that will confirm what you already believe.

Good luck!
 
ineverveg

ineverveg

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Beefbisquit said:
Ok, first off - you start off your thread with a false dichotomy. <---- CLICK HERE

It's not either 'god' or 'aliens' - there is a plethora of other phenomenon it could be attributed to.

It's also a loaded question. Instead of asking a general question about people's experiences on DMT, you loaded the question, and are searching for what you want to hear, instead of searching for information in general. It seems you only want information that will confirm what you already believe.

Good luck!
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but i dont want to know general info,i want personal views from people whom take DMT about which i asked,straight to the point,why does that bother you so much,obviously you dont have any experience with it so why comment at all troll!,you are not a mod and i'm doing nothing wrong dipshit so you can eat my arse
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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ineverveg said:
but i dont want to know general info,i want personal views from people whom take DMT about which i asked,straight to the point,why does that bother you so much,obviously you dont have any experience with it so why comment at all troll!,you are not a mod and i'm doing nothing wrong dipshit so you can eat my arse
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Cool story bro.

You are looking for people to blow smoke up your ass and reinforce your beliefs.

You have zero interest in actually finding out about peoples experiences on DMT.
 
Skuxx

Skuxx

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I don't know. I really love this topic and reading about peoples ideas beliefs and theories... but I just don't have any clue what it all is. And the more that I do DMT, I just get more questions.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Beef was a little brash in the point he was getting to,but I understand the question,but there are no answers,as individual minds differ greatly...the beings or entitys that surface during the trip are what one makes them in their own mind..if you want to believe in god,then as most of our ancestors seen them,they are gods or god like beings for that individual..as one has never seen things like that,one has to come up with a reason for these 'visions'...I feel if 'forward thinking' individuals who have no beliefs see these beings or feel their presence,inherently(sic) they feel a need to explain these beings with a description of 'aliens' or 'worldly beings'..what ever description will calm curiosity and replace it with fact will work. Call them reincarnates of jim belushi if it makes you sleep...I being a science guy describe it as this-YOU'RE FUCKED UP ON DRUGS DUDE!..hope this helps,if not,its my description and you asked for it...peace bro!
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Personally I get the same experience outta nitrous I do with deems except the colors..these great epiphanies come to me and as I'm almost about to grasp this splendid knowledge I'm to recieve ,the drug wears off and I come back to reality..almost like getting ready to orgasm and then nothing...but as in life,I never give up and get shit done,take another hit and wait to hopefully take a little of the experience back to reality with me.
 
Skuxx

Skuxx

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rory420420 said:
Beef was a little brash in the point he was getting to,but I understand the question,but there are no answers,as individual minds differ greatly...the beings or entitys that surface during the trip are what one makes them in their own mind..if you want to believe in god,then as most of our ancestors seen them,they are gods or god like beings for that individual..as one has never seen things like that,one has to come up with a reason for these 'visions'...I feel if 'forward thinking' individuals who have no beliefs see these beings or feel their presence,inherently(sic) they feel a need to explain these beings with a description of 'aliens' or 'worldly beings'..what ever description will calm curiosity and replace it with fact will work. Call them reincarnates of jim belushi if it makes you sleep...I being a science guy describe it as this-YOU'RE FUCKED UP ON DRUGS DUDE!..hope this helps,if not,its my description and you asked for it...peace bro!
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but science doesn't have all the answers either. Not even close. I still like to stick to "I have no idea"
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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rory420420 said:
Beef was a little brash in the point he was getting to,but I understand the question,but there are no answers,as individual minds differ greatly...the beings or entitys that surface during the trip are what one makes them in their own mind..if you want to believe in god,then as most of our ancestors seen them,they are gods or god like beings for that individual..as one has never seen things like that,one has to come up with a reason for these 'visions'...I feel if 'forward thinking' individuals who have no beliefs see these beings or feel their presence,inherently(sic) they feel a need to explain these beings with a description of 'aliens' or 'worldly beings'..what ever description will calm curiosity and replace it with fact will work. Call them reincarnates of jim belushi if it makes you sleep...I being a science guy describe it as this-YOU'RE FUCKED UP ON DRUGS DUDE!..hope this helps,if not,its my description and you asked for it...peace bro!
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He's posted shit like this in the Philosophy section, and linked to this thread.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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rory420420 said:
Beef was a little brash in the point he was getting to,but I understand the question,but there are no answers,as individual minds differ greatly...the beings or entitys that surface during the trip are what one makes them in their own mind..if you want to believe in god,then as most of our ancestors seen them,they are gods or god like beings for that individual..as one has never seen things like that,one has to come up with a reason for these 'visions'...I feel if 'forward thinking' individuals who have no beliefs see these beings or feel their presence,inherently(sic) they feel a need to explain these beings with a description of 'aliens' or 'worldly beings'..what ever description will calm curiosity and replace it with fact will work. Call them reincarnates of jim belushi if it makes you sleep...I being a science guy describe it as this-YOU'RE FUCKED UP ON DRUGS DUDE!..hope this helps,if not,its my description and you asked for it...peace bro!
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rory420420 said:
Personally I get the same experience outta nitrous I do with deems except the colors..these great epiphanies come to me and as I'm almost about to grasp this splendid knowledge I'm to recieve ,the drug wears off and I come back to reality..almost like getting ready to orgasm and then nothing...but as in life,I never give up and get shit done,take another hit and wait to hopefully take a little of the experience back to reality with me.
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Skuxx said:
but science doesn't have all the answers either. Not even close. I still like to stick to "I have no idea"
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Why would you attribute an experience induced by an alteration of the chemicals inside your brain to something that is real?
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Padawan..re read my post...I'm speaking of effects of drugs and what people perceive..not me..'YOURE FUCKED UP ON DRUGS DUDE!'...I perceive just that...relating to others is a different discussion...
 
ineverveg

ineverveg

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Beefbisquit said:
He's posted shit like this in the Philosophy section, and linked to this thread.
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lol ,it was a thread on aliens, to which i said DMT lets me see aliens,i got hated on ,it made me curious, i started this thread!

Again what is your background with DMT, or are you just here hating?
 
ineverveg

ineverveg

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DrGreenDreads said:
I don't think the entities are gods or aliens
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don't keep us in suspense! lol

Padawanbater2 said:
Why would you attribute an experience induced by an alteration of the chemicals inside your brain to something that is real?
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Why not attribute it to aliens or god, what do you make of the molecule?

rory420420 said:
Padawan..re read my post...I'm speaking of effects of drugs and what people perceive..not me..'YOURE FUCKED UP ON DRUGS DUDE!'...I perceive just that...relating to others is a different discussion...
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Do you have any experiences to share ?
 
DrGreenDreads

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I don't know, beings of energy? When I breakthrough i can only describe it as riding a wave of energy on a astral plane and everything is chaotically peacefull..that makes no sense I kno
 
rory420420

rory420420

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the story about my buddy shitting himself literally..search my posts..I myself hit deems and its not what it should be..and it was made by me...I just get color and mind fucks...ocassionaly I get what I call 'warping'..where a plane of geometric patterns bends in a dark background..that's about all..but if I ever shit myself,and don't see aliens..ima be pissed.
 
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