DiY LEDs - How to Power Them

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ImAgrAsian

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Sorry If I am posting this in wrong Forum. Been reading and a bit confused. Someone had mention on different forum saying if Hlg-185h-C1400 is use to drive COBs at say @1200ma. Driver still draw 1400ma from the wall. Is this True? Someone please help me understand this. Thanks
 
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sixstring2112

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ImAgrAsian said:
Sorry If I am posting this in wrong Forum. Been reading and a bit confused. Someone had mention on different forum saying if Hlg-185h-C1400 is use to drive COBs at say @1200ma. Driver still draw 1400ma from the wall. Is this True? Someone please help me understand this. Thanks
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that driver is good for 1400ma.it could be dimmed to 1200ma but full power is the 1400
 
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ImAgrAsian

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@ss2112 thanks for reply. So if I dim driver down to 1200ma then it should only draw ~1200ma from the wall and not 1400ma correct? Just making sure I have enough juice for the drivers and not trip the breaker everytime light comes on
 
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sixstring2112

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ImAgrAsian said:
@ss2112 thanks for reply. So if I dim driver down to 1200ma then it should only draw ~1200ma from the wall and not 1400ma correct? Just making sure I have enough juice for the drivers and not trip the breaker everytime light comes on
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last time i checked a driver like this i wanna say the 1400ma setup with 5 cobs pulled like 1.8amps or 1800ma.you will have a bit of extra power being used to power the whole setup but not alot of extra.that said i have 4 of these drivers on 1 breaker with no problem at all.your normal breakers will be either 15 amp or 20 amp.mine are all 20 amp and i wire all my stuff for 240v so im pulling less amps and alot of these meanwells are a little more efficient at 240v then they are at 120v.the test i just mentioned was at 120v. but even at 120v you should be able to run 3 or 4 drivers per breaker(15 amp) with room to spare for safety.
 
GBAUTO

GBAUTO

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Remember that the driver is a transformer. Input current isn't the same as the output. The total wattage of your arrays divided by the input voltage will give you a approximate input current.
 
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Baura

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Hello guys

I bought a GE driver(used in immersion refrigerated display) that runs at 1.2A - 55v max. I will use it with a 048-1812

The driver has a dip switch to choose 0.6 , 0.9 and 1.2A output.

But it have a dimming function as well.

The dc output wires and dimming wires are together in a molex connector(4 wires one conector, almost like computer psu conectors).

When I "short" the dimming wires the output is 100%.
If I leave the dimming wires as they are on the connector,the output is like 20%.

I thought it was 0-10v dimming, but now I'm confused.

what kind of dimming is this?

Cheers
 
mahiluana

mahiluana

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G84 said:
mixing different cri cob?
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:peace: Make sure both cobs have ~ the same Vf.
So the current will be devided ~ 50% / 50%.
Take care of an efect that happens if one cob get much more current than the other:

- He will get hoter than the other cob --> Vf will go down with the rising chip temp. - and this cause aditional rising of current.

You avoid this with a good heat management (my cobs are :fire: watercooled) and making shure that one cob alone can stand 100% of the current.

eg. 1. pic - led driver 50W / 1,5A with 50W cob full spec. pink 1800K

2. pic - adding in paralell 50W cob ww. 3500K
- and ( 30W red 630nm in series with 10W 2000K )

3. pic - the combination of 11 cobs with 4 different spec. increase light efficacy ~ 50%
and my babies and me - like the fuller spec. a lot in flowering.

I doubt that a plant give significant response to the difference in cri of the same white cob -
but driving 2 cobs @ 50% current instead of 1 cob @ 100% will rise light output a lot and give you better results. :weed: So yes - it`s possible to mix different cri :eyesmoke:



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ImAgrAsian

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Thanks again for the help yall. I can't decide on my setup for 5x5. I have clu048-1212 3500k 90cri. Debating between.
25cobs, 5 hlg-185h-c1050b or
24cobs, 6 hlg-185h-c1400b?
Any help/suggestion please.
 
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Baura

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Baura said:
Hello guys

I bought a GE driver(used in immersion refrigerated display) that runs at 1.2A - 55v max. I will use it with a 048-1812

The driver has a dip switch to choose 0.6 , 0.9 and 1.2A output.

But it have a dimming function as well.

The dc output wires and dimming wires are together in a molex connector(4 wires one conector, almost like computer psu conectors).

When I "short" the dimming wires the output is 100%.
If I leave the dimming wires as they are on the connector,the output is like 20%.

I thought it was 0-10v dimming, but now I'm confused.

what kind of dimming is this?

Cheers
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Maybe the installation guide can help.

Would it be like a "inverted" 10v dimming?
 

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justfuket

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Hey guys looking for a little help matching a pair of heatsinks to to some bridgelux v18's. The heatsink I'm looking at says I need a zhaga book led holder to mount it, could I just use kapton tape to mount it?
The led is a v18 bxre-50c5001-c-74 ran at 1050ma for 35 watts and the heatsink is a Moduled Xtra 9950-B.
Any help would be much appreciated.
 
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OpenCannaWorms

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Hey folks, will a meanwell HLG-600H-48 power 6 Bridgelux BXRC-30E10K0-C-73? The chips have a forward voltage of 68.1v and the driver has an output of 127 ~ 431VDC. Im confused because it says it has a constant current region of 24-48v. I want to run the chips at around 100 watts. Thanks in advance.
 
SaltyNuts

SaltyNuts

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mahiluana said:
:peace: Make sure both cobs have ~ the same Vf.
So the current will be devided ~ 50% / 50%.
Take care of an efect that happens if one cob get much more current than the other:

- He will get hoter than the other cob --> Vf will go down with the rising chip temp. - and this cause aditional rising of current.

You avoid this with a good heat management (my cobs are :fire: watercooled) and making shure that one cob alone can stand 100% of the current.

eg. 1. pic - led driver 50W / 1,5A with 50W cob full spec. pink 1800K

2. pic - adding in paralell 50W cob ww. 3500K
- and ( 30W red 630nm in series with 10W 2000K )

3. pic - the combination of 11 cobs with 4 different spec. increase light efficacy ~ 50%
and my babies and me - like the fuller spec. a lot in flowering.

I doubt that a plant give significant response to the difference in cri of the same white cob -
but driving 2 cobs @ 50% current instead of 1 cob @ 100% will rise light output a lot and give you better results. :weed: So yes - it`s possible to mix different cri :eyesmoke:



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Nice. is that what is called a hybrid serial/parallel wiring arrangement?

btw how do those pink cobs do? Are they ebay cheapies?
 
BiggestLittleGrower

BiggestLittleGrower

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going to be using 2 QB 304 in my next light build. picking a driver to run these and wanted to get your guys opinions

I was thinking a HLG 320h c1400 and running them in series

or would it be better to run a
HLG 320H c2800 and run them in parallel?

its the same either way no?

HLG 240h would not be enough to run these boards 130-150 watts each. again sorry still learning and trying to calculate this out myself.
 
mahiluana

mahiluana

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SaltyNuts said:
how do those pink cobs do? Are they ebay cheapies?
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There are different types(producers) of these 1500-1800K chips on the asian market.
Some phosphor layers are thinner than others and so emit more blue and higher lumens/W.
driving them @ low (25-33%) current - offer an easy, cheap and efficient way to veg. and bloom with a single spectrum.
 
SaltyNuts

SaltyNuts

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mahiluana said:
There are different types(producers) of these 1500-1800K chips on the asian market.
Some phosphor layers are thinner than others and so emit more blue and higher lumens/W.
driving them @ low (25-33%) current - offer an easy, cheap and efficient way to veg. and bloom with a single spectrum.
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yes sir. which do you use? do you have any recommendations for cheap cobs of relatively higher quality?
 
GBAUTO

GBAUTO

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Al Yamoni said:
How many citizen clu1818 could I fit in series on a single hlg-480h-c1400b driver?
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Al Yamoni said:
How many citizen clu1818 could I fit in series on a single hlg-480h-c1400b driver?
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Looks like the driver has 343V available so just divide that by the forward voltage of the chip and use the lowest whole number( example-6.43 would be 6 chips)
P.S.-be VERY aware about safety-that much DC voltage WILL KILL YOU
 
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