DIY E-Nail

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fatalflowers

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budbro18 said:
i dont but someone on this thread does. And IMO go with 20mm unless you already have/plan to put it on the highly educated enail adapter.

Were gonna have a lot of quartz nails for reasonable prices soon and the 16mm nails are just so small and the 20mm cost the same. just my 2 cents.
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Definitely have to agree on this as got sent the wrong size coil have a 20mm nail but only 16mm coil and those 4mm seem to make a big difference especially if your aim is a bit off.
 
LiquidJunglist

LiquidJunglist

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Has anyone figured out the duel coil enail yet? Where you run 2 coils off one PID?

I've seen quite a few people selling them and using them to make some cool rosin tech presses.

http://medisunfarms.bigcartel.com

Just curious? I should be finishing my Peli-Nail soon.. YAY.

I have a DC Enail also just have to get a battery, a LiFePO4 one.
 
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MR Zulu said:
on and off to an extent... The unit doesn't power down it just stops the flow of electricity to your coil.... ( I get around the corner from home and turn it on, by the time I get inside and de-shoe its been ready and at temp for a several mins ) now if I can just get something to get my dab ready too I'd be fuckin set lol
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SICK!!!
 
MR Zulu

MR Zulu

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Ld definitely involved
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LiquidJunglist said:
Has anyone figured out the duel coil enail yet? Where you run 2 coils off one PID?

I've seen quite a few people selling them and using them to make some cool rosin tech presses.

http://medisunfarms.bigcartel.com

Just curious? I should be finishing my Peli-Nail soon.. YAY.

I have a DC Enail also just have to get a battery, a LiFePO4 one.
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would definitely involve 2 SSRs.... Would recommend running 220 instead of 110
 
LiquidJunglist

LiquidJunglist

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MR Zulu said:
Ld definitely involved
wou


would definitely involve 2 SSRs.... Would recommend running 220 instead of 110
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But does that mean i can still plug it into my wall? The one they have on there site plugs into the wall but i think he is getting Hammerd Enails to make them for him.

http://hammerdenails.bigcartel.com/product/enail-with-dual-coils

Ive been kinda interested in the evolution of the rosin tech.

I can't do the big boy Pneumatic Press. But i can make 2 enails. ^_^

http://rosintechnologies.com/rosin-technologies-pneumatic-rosin-press-pre-order.html

Im looking at a 2 Ton Arbor Shop Press Northern. I could just run two enails but i would be much easier to just have a duel coil unit.
 
budbro18

budbro18

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Im working on making a DIY rosin press. My girl just got a new straightener so the old one is officially mine. Lowest temp is 160 and my IR says it bounces between 165-175 and doesnt really go over except at the beginning.

The crazy thing is im pretty sure theres an actual thermocouple and i think i can piggy back onto it with a PID controller and SSR and possibly have a pretty accurate rosin press. Theres also a little potentiometer right next to the suspected TC (thermocouple) connections.

Already disassembled it completely and am trying to find the best vice to mount it to. Debating one of those table vices or the hand held ones usually used to hold wood together while waiting for the glue to dry.
 
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budbro18 said:
Im working on making a DIY rosin press. My girl just got a new straightener so the old one is officially mine. Lowest temp is 160 and my IR says it bounces between 165-175 and doesnt really go over except at the beginning.

The crazy thing is im pretty sure theres an actual thermocouple and i think i can piggy back onto it with a PID controller and SSR and possibly have a pretty accurate rosin press. Theres also a little potentiometer right next to the suspected TC (thermocouple) connections.

Already disassembled it completely and am trying to find the best vice to mount it to. Debating one of those table vices or the hand held ones usually used to hold wood together while waiting for the glue to dry.
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Your always crafty sir. LOL I think i have seen someone else do the same with taking about the Hair Straightener apart and making a press i forgot where i saw it.... if i see they IG user I'll post it on here for ya.

Did you check out my post above about the duel coil enail? Im thinking of buying those Heat Pressing Dies from Medisun Farms. I can get a 3 Ton Arbor Press from Northern for $199.99 and Harbor Freight has a 1 Ton for $49.99. so the options are there i just need to figure out the duel coil enail so i can just get the Dies from him and make the rest.

HELP ^_^
 
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LiquidJunglist

LiquidJunglist

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So i did get a email back from the Auber Engineer.... You guys are going to be very happy ^_^

Do you know if the two coils can have different set temperature? If they can, I don't know how they did it. But if both coil have the same temperature, then, they might just paralleled them together. The risk is that if one coil failed by thermocouple shorted, the other will get damaged also.
Regards,
Suyi

You cannot change the temperature of the coils individually. Both coils have the same temperature. So you're saying I can just wire them on the same SSR?
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One SSR should be fine as long as the capacity is ok. I think two SSRs may be a little safer. You need to wire both thermocouple to the controller. The reading is a average of two. They might not be identical, but very close.
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So i think were good with just having two SSRs and wiring it to the TC control location on the back of the PID. Remember i have very little electical experience so I'm just going on a idea not a pro or even a full amateur yet.

As i talk to them about a Rosin Press they said they might look into making them since the tech is a lot of what they already make. Cant wait to try to make a Dual coil Pelican Nail MWWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA in my best Mad Scientist Laugh. :fire:
 
budbro18

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LiquidJunglist said:
Your always crafty sir. LOL I think i have seen someone else do the same with taking about the Hair Straightener apart and making a press i forgot where i saw it.... if i see they IG user I'll post it on here for ya.

Did you check out my post above about the duel coil enail? Im thinking of buying those Heat Pressing Dies from Medisun Farms. I can get a 3 Ton Arbor Press from Northern for $199.99 and Harbor Freight has a 1 Ton for $49.99. so the options are there i just need to figure out the duel coil enail so i can just get the Dies from him and make the rest.

HELP ^_^
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Hell yeah ive seen a few people and it always seemed easiest to just use 2 pids and 2 SSRs but you could def go one.

As for the rosin press ive seen a few too but no real "diy build videos" how to actually assemble them.

Much like why i made this thread there were several places that had a handful of pictures with a written explanation, and i wanted to do a more indepth/discussion based thread to more accurately deal with all the different equipment we could use.

Good luck with the enail adventures! Ill post the link to the other thread when i start making it!
 
MR Zulu

MR Zulu

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Terpinmyerrl said:
All wired up and can't get Celsius to Fahrenheit need help setting up setting please help thanks much
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Look at the instructions that came with it. It shows how on that little folded piece of paper that unfolds into a huge piece of paper..... One side is English..... Did yours come with it?
 
MR Zulu

MR Zulu

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Terpinmyerrl said:
Yea they were in French, Chn, and jpn. Damn gibberish to me
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If you look back in one of my posts on this thread I think I may have permalinked the PDF version. I'm at work at the moment so I do t have time to go through all the pages, but look back or go to Omron's web site and look up the E5CC ver. 1.2 I believe.
 
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DrGreenLeaf said:
OK, that's pretty much what I figured. Thought I read in the auber instructions could use 20AWG for everything on the pid side of the SSR. The output of the SSR, which actually powers the coil needs to be gauged according to the load. Makes sense, and can obviously save $$ and will take up less space.

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Hey bud, I used 18g wire all the way around, and I can't get my ssr light to light up and coil is reading ambient temp 76.. Do I need to change some wires for different gauges?
 
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idabidabido

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I got enail unit with xmtg-9000 pid 6month ago. It says xtmg-7601 inside. I somehow reset the pid settings and those listed here aren't working well. overshoot. The unit use to be very good about maintaining temps and not overshooting. Now i set it to 720f it overshoots to 760f and cools down to 690f before reheating. Does anyone know what the settings are for these pids? They have al1, al2, P6,P,I,D,Hr,Ar,LCY settings. Thanks in advance
 
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idabidabido said:
I got enail unit with xmtg-9000 pid 6month ago. It says xtmg-7601 inside. I somehow reset the pid settings and those listed here aren't working well. overshoot. The unit use to be very good about maintaining temps and not overshooting. Now i set it to 720f it overshoots to 760f and cools down to 690f before reheating. Does anyone know what the settings are for these pids? They have al1, al2, P6,P,I,D,Hr,Ar,LCY settings. Thanks in advance
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I use the smaller PID, but the ranges are usually something like P=5, I=100, D=20....that has been the most common default and I have used a few different models and also different manufacturers of those models. This also matches a few posts I have seen, and may work for your model as well. I have tried lowering the P=value on a model that had 30 degree overshoot and it seemed to lower it. Also I think I raised the D value up to maybe 40-ish...good luck
 
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