yea i agree that is why i have one hydro and 2 soil.. The hydro i FIM and did lots of trimming.. one soil i tryed LST and the 3 soil im letting go.. do what ever it wants... out of 4 bag seeds got 3 girls.. well i had another one with the hydro but it just looked weard.. the structure was all wrong..... just killed it.. 5 girls is enough. 3 ww 1 slh and 1 g13 haze.. all girls.. plus just got red dragon Afghan kush ak-48 and Violator Kush .. hay Satica u mush be in hydro so a question for u... iv been using spring watter from the store. for the most part of the grow. but watter should be free and it was getting exp... so iv been using my house watter for like 2 weeks now.. it is high in alckline. spelling on that is wrong. any waz.. so i ph it down... but it just doesnt seem like i can get it under control now.. any thoughts on why...