Designing a New Grow Area

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kindfarms420

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superstoner1 said:
plants dont need oxygen, they make it. i have to believe it was from me just being in the room and working. when i did get my minigen and ppm3 controller( with no other room changes, and i mean very sealed room) i had the controller installed for a few days before gen and it would easily go over 2000ppm after being in the room for 20-30 mins. thats why they say plants like to be talked to, actually they could care less they just like the co2 we produce. and this was not to misinform, my grow was very documented on another site that many here can verify.
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i know plants make oxygen but they need co2 to do so that was my point..
 
funkdr.

funkdr.

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Look at the thread at Subcool's organics on ventilation. He has presented the information pretty straight forward.
 
Rob0769

Rob0769

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superstoner1 said:
plants dont need oxygen, they make it. i have to believe it was from me just being in the room and working. when i did get my minigen and ppm3 controller( with no other room changes, and i mean very sealed room) i had the controller installed for a few days before gen and it would easily go over 2000ppm after being in the room for 20-30 mins. thats why they say plants like to be talked to, actually they could care less they just like the co2 we produce. and this was not to misinform, my grow was very documented on another site that many here can verify.
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Plants do need oxygen. Cannabis plants are a c3 plant. That means during the day they breathe co2 and during the night they breathe oxygen. Enriching the air with co2 to 1,500ppm is artificially turning plants in to a c4 plant which doubles it's growth. They still breathe air at night. The only plant that ever ever only breathes co2 all the time are plants like cactus. I can't remember their species name but those are the only plants that store co2 at night then use it again in ghe morning. 2000ppm co2 is poisonous to humans and approaching poisonous for plants. Don't "nute burn" them with co2. ;)
 
Rob0769

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Rrog said:
Well, I really appreciate the opinions. This could derail quickly, so let's assume the humidity level is acceptable, whatever that is. If we could leave it at that, I'll send you both something other than coal in your stocking this year.

What about the control panel? Most I see have a bank of outlets attached, but you'd need some heavy gauge 12-3 to run to these ballasts, no? Does anyone hard wire the dedicated outlets in the flower room to the controller in the veg room? [/QUOTE

I don't remember the sizes of the wires I ran to my garage but I used the same wires that go to the power box. Then as far as outlet wires I had 20 amp fuses so I used wire for 20amp. Just add a fuse for each 2 lights. It is incredibly simple. put two ends of wire on the fuse, plug fuse in, run wire to where you want, put outlet on. Done. I don'f understanzd your last question though. ]
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Rob0769

Rob0769

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You don't need special duty wire for any ballasts I have used and I've use 240, 120, digital and magnetic.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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I read someone say that once the MJ gets used to high CO2 it won't grow well without continued supplementation, and therefore start at 600PPM
 
Rrog

Rrog

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Just looking to finalize the footprint of this grow op. Again, just looking at 2-3 1000W in flower and whatever to handle moms and clones in the veg room. I'm thinking if both rooms were 8x10 and 9' tall I'm good. Anyone have thoughts on that?

Flower room is perpetual, and I'll accommodate shorter plants by raising them. I'd like to walk around them easily. Right now I have to crawl on all 4s to get in and out. Ridiculous.
 
NickNasty

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Well a 1000 watt will do a 4x4 to 5x5 space so lets say your using 4x4 for each 1000 and your doing your 1000s in a row then you would have 2ft on either side to walk and really no room on the ends to walk or at least 1 end if they are perpetual. What is your perpetual cycle going to be? Are you going to putting plants in / harvesting plants every week , 2 weeks , 3 weeks , a month?
 
Rrog

Rrog

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Nick, no perpetual cycle established, as I've never had a real grow facility. Given the 4x4 footprint, Maybe I should go 10x10 for flower, allowing 3' on each side to walk around, and 1' on either end.

Also, looking at a Fujitsu Halcyon AOU24CL1 24,000BTU cool only 10.5 EER 18 SEER ~$1884. Not sure if that includes the inside wall mounted blower assembly or not
 
gladstoned

gladstoned

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Oh ya. There is room. I tried putting several plants under a light and fuck a bunch of that. I want the shit beautiful.
How many plants you put under a light? Any of my decent ones haven't been many. for the most part I just been running seed packs scoring a keeper here, keeper there.
Getting ready to make some RSO now.
I started out with a bigger room, then adding lights one here, one there, as I got them but I started finding out quickly that having a nice path around your plants and through the middle and all that is extra room that needs to be managed.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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So your 10 x 10 sports 4 hoods and leaves space all around. Perfect. I'm looking for quality, not quantity. You run what, 2 plants per hood?

For some reason I thought you were using open hood / reflectors. You are sealing your room?
 
gladstoned

gladstoned

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I don't have room to walk around my room, I open the door and climb in. Move plants.
The room I am using has air cooled raptors, the second room I am not air cooling the lights and so I am taking the lens off also. More heat, that's why I stayed with bigger unit.
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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Best thing I did this last time I built a room (4 in 2 years, I HATE moving!) was to plan it much bigger and build into it. I kept alot of panda plastic around to partition and remove but if you make it expandable and start smaller you'll be able to gauge how you work in your enviro and nobody can tell you that. spent a month under 400 for veg and 1K for flower with some flo. veg was 5x10 and flower was 8x10 feet. way too big a room for that much light but it worked best for me to get in and work the area and then add lights one at a time. For space I'd think as big as you want to be in the end plus 10% and start at about 50% of this capacity.
 
Rrog

Rrog

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SS1 what mini-split did you wind up with? I'm looking at a Fujitsu and LG. Just not sure if I buy the exterior + interior units as a kit or if they're sold as mix-n-match
 
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