Dense vs. fluffy nugs

lilroach

Well-Known Member
It's my opinion that dense buds cure much better than fluffy. If you want to give me an ounce of fluffy bud, I'll gladly smoke it.
 

Julius Caesar

Active Member
OK, I cut these off my puniest plant so I would have something to smoke while the rest is finishing up. I know it is still not ready - although it has been 9 weeks in 12/12 - but I am worried that I am not finding any calyx development. These buds are super hairy, but hardly any calyx whatsoever and the ones that are there are small and empty - like hollow sacs. The entire bud is leaf and pistils. I had the same issue on my last two grows but I had blamed it on the bag seed genetics. I am sure I harvested both of those too early as well.

Do these calyxes actually begin swelling this late into flower? It just seems to me this plant should have much more density already. There is no amber yet, and if I have to I will let them go to 11 weeks - but isn't that getting a little ridiculous for this strain?

Sample buds info:
Skunk #1 - Sensi Seeds, harvested day #62 of 12/12
600W HPS - new Eye Hortilux bulb
CO2 @ 1200 to 1500 ppm from week #3 to week #7 of 12/12.
85 to 90F F day and 75F to 79F night (yeah I need to add an AC)
Fox Farm Ocean Forest + FF nutrients
Final Flush day #59 of 12/12
Dried for 3 1/2 days

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sourpuss

New Member
Like you said puniest plant hairy, wasnt in the winfow of harvest. I assume the other plants r foing fine,

Also assume its a bottom bud, ehich should havr bren removed prob couple wrrks behide the rest of the plant in maturity.

What you got is yo b expected. Carry on. Post some pics of you main colas as im interested in sensi skunk. Pls. :)
 

kindnug

Well-Known Member
Calyx begin to swell at different times on different strains...
The more Sativa in the genetics/phenotype the longer it will take!

I actually prefer very intense mostly sativa plants
Still searching but so far CSG SSSDH + Dinafem Cloud#9 have been great
Suggestions?
 

kindnug

Well-Known Member
The dried bud looks like it had ~3 weeks left.
I only say that because my first grow looked like that(entire harvest)
+3 weeks on the next round produced completely different results.
I had turned my entire first harvest into bubblehash! The most hash I've ever held @ one time...
 

lilroach

Well-Known Member
This is the time to be patient....I bet many of us have cut down a plant before its time and regretted it. You've waited this long, another week or two will only bring good things to you. Keep an eye on the trich's and only harvest when they tell you they're ready.
 

Julius Caesar

Active Member
I noticed definite signs of calyx swelling on a few of the plants, especially the afghani dominant phenotypes which have much smaller yet denser buds. On the Sativa dominant plants, the buds are much larger yet fluffier and filled with foxtails with signs of re-veg. I have read this can be normal in Sativa dominant strains as they will go through several growth spurts followed by increased trichome production. Here are a few photos.

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Julius Caesar

Active Member
Six days later and huge improvement. The rest of the crop is still growing. I probably won't take it till day #77.

Dried buds harvested on day #62 of 12/12
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These buds were over-dried


Dried buds harvested on day #68 of 12/12
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These buds are still a little damp
 

kindnug

Well-Known Member
Looks to me like you got a phenotype that I wouldn't consider "keeper". I've seen mexican bag-seed plants like that before.

Bean plants can all differ in flowering times/bud development even in the same strain>
Unless they worked the strain to F7+ and picked the best specimens to breed with.
^^That's just my opinion though!
 

sourpuss

New Member
Wow, thats how you grow? And your giving advice julie ceasar?

Do you even have a loupe? How r your trichs? You r doing a good job at guessing:)
 

Julius Caesar

Active Member
Wow, thats how you grow? And your giving advice julie ceasar?

Do you even have a loupe? How r your trichs? You r doing a good job at guessing:)
It is still growing. You give the worst advice I have ever read on here. If I had taken your advice and chopped at 50% clear trichomes I would have nothing but hairy leaves. The calyxes are just now beginning to swell.
 
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