Deniers of Humanity

Deniers of Humanity By : TheBrutalTruth (2009-05-11 11:40:32)

The left, the statists, love to go on and on about how selfish self-centered egotistical self-righteous asinine conservatives (such as myself) are so absorbed with earning money that they forget the fact that despite the fact that Conservatives often work at decent jobs we do not want to work for a living, or be reduced by the statists efforts to reduce to the stature of animals.

Really, we do not appreciate being forced through high taxes to struggle to pay bills. We do not like having all of our pay taken by purchasing the basic necessites after government steals its pound of flesh.

We do want to have a life more meaningful then eat, shit, work, sleep, repeat. We do not enjoy being forced to surrender our pay and thus being forced to forgo the luxuries that we could afford if the statists were not so hell bent on finding a way to reduce all but government employees to the stature of animals.

They do this by taking every spare penny a person makes. Humans are separate from animals in that we enjoy art, and music. We enjoy movies and sportsgames. These are things that separate us from the animals. For the Statists to ignore the fact that these things cost money is asinine, and in truth is self-centered.

Due to their desire that everyone have food, shelter, water and a pot to piss in the statists are making everyone worse off. It is immoral of them to force humans to live like animals where we are reduced to just trying to secure the basic necessities, especially when through our own personal efforts we would have the money to enjoy the things that define humans as human, and as more than animals.

Liberals through their efforts to equalize everyone are accomplishing the dehumanization of humanity by making it so that members of the working class and middle class can not afford to luxuries of life, such as going to the movies with friends, or going to a baseball game with the same.

They argue that they want to enhance humanity, but this is a lie. Humanity is defined by humans, and humans are the only animal to think and to enjoy music, art and games and have the conscience ability to make them.

The end result of the statists interference in the markets will not be to enhance humanity, but will be to reduce all of humanity (except the statists themselves of course) to the level of animals.

Due to their desire that everyone have food, shelter, water and a pot to piss in
Duuhhhh, isn't that the real goal of humanity? To make sure everyone has the basics of survival, to even strive to make everyones life a little better. We could achieve a lot more of this if we could get rid of the stranglehold the oligarchs have on our government. If you aren't an oligarch, then you're spinning your wheels by touting freedom for middle Americans. There will be no such thing as long as Oligarchs are in charge, they are in full charge trying to destroy the middle class. Obama is the designated saviour of the middle class, if he fails, you can kiss your lifestyle goodbye.
BTW do you even realize how crass and uncaring your above statement makes you look?

medicineman said:

Due to their desire that everyone have food, shelter, water and a pot to piss in
Duuhhhh, isn't that the real goal of humanity? To make sure everyone has the basics of survival, to even strive to make everyones life a little better. We could achieve a lot more of this if we could get rid of the stranglehold the oligarchs have on our government. If you aren't an oligarch, then you're spinning your wheels by touting freedom for middle Americans. There will be no such thing as long as Oligarchs are in charge, they are in full charge trying to destroy the middle class. Obama is the designated saviour of the middle class, if he fails, you can kiss your lifestyle goodbye.
BTW do you even realize how crass and uncaring your above statement makes you look?

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No, because the point is that while Liberals want everyone to be the equivalent of animals, it is not possible for their ideology to allow humanity to well, be human.

You're philosophy reeks of stupidity and crassness, and a basic denial of humanity.

People are not animals, and thus it is meaningless for liberals such as yourself to insist that everyone be reduced to such a level. In that kind of world we would be no better than cockroaches or rats. There would be no advances made in medicine that permits us to enhance our immune systems. There would be no discovery of electricity, of pulleys, of gears, of internal combustion.

The entire liberal position that everyone must be fed, clothed, and sheltered in the end will destroy humanity.

Of course only an imbecile like you would be able to get a different message out of what I posted than that.

The History of Capitalism and of Civilization has been a History of Progress, of Advancement and of ever accelerating acquisition of knowledge.

Only when you look at Bureaucratism and Liberalism you see people attempting to halt progress, and deny new acquisition of knowledge, because it might be risky, or dangerous, or it might harm some one.

With out such risks being taken we would not have heart transplant surgery, or any other kinds of transplants. We would not have electricty, the printing press, the wheel (the caveman might have wheeled the first stone wheel over his foot crushing it.)

Liberals stand for reducing humanity to uncleansed animals, and throwing away all of the progress that has been made by the human capability to be more than just another filthy animal.


As Thomas Edison said, "Hell, there are no rules here, we're trying to accomplish something."

Only liberals insist on handicapping humanity by pushing forward rules.

Liberals are like the Roman Church during the medieval ages, in that they preach tolerance and diversity, but refuse to permit it, being intolerant and the most homogenous collection of freaks on Earth.

Liberals want equality of OUTCOME. This is where they always hop the tracks into absurdity and violence.

TheBrutalTruth said:

No, because the point is that while Liberals want everyone to be the equivalent of animals, it is not possible for their ideology to allow humanity to well, be human.

You're philosophy reeks of stupidity and crassness, and a basic denial of humanity.

People are not animals, and thus it is meaningless for liberals such as yourself to insist that everyone be reduced to such a level. In that kind of world we would be no better than cockroaches or rats. There would be no advances made in medicine that permits us to enhance our immune systems. There would be no discovery of electricity, of pulleys, of gears, of internal combustion.

The entire liberal position that everyone must be fed, clothed, and sheltered in the end will destroy humanity.

Of course only an imbecile like you would be able to get a different message out of what I posted than that.

The History of Capitalism and of Civilization has been a History of Progress, of Advancement and of ever accelerating acquisition of knowledge.

Only when you look at Bureaucratism and Liberalism you see people attempting to halt progress, and deny new acquisition of knowledge, because it might be risky, or dangerous, or it might harm some one.

With out such risks being taken we would not have heart transplant surgery, or any other kinds of transplants. We would not have electricty, the printing press, the wheel (the caveman might have wheeled the first stone wheel over his foot crushing it.)

Liberals stand for reducing humanity to uncleansed animals, and throwing away all of the progress that has been made by the human capability to be more than just another filthy animal.


As Thomas Edison said, "Hell, there are no rules here, we're trying to accomplish something."

Only liberals insist on handicapping humanity by pushing forward rules.

Liberals are like the Roman Church during the medieval ages, in that they preach tolerance and diversity, but refuse to permit it, being intolerant and the most homogenous collection of freaks on Earth.

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Absolute hogwash. your hatred of liberals clouds your mental capacity. You see only what fascists have claimed as the libersls programs. You can readily see that the only the strong survive is the real law of the jungle. The law of humanity is to try and let even the weak have a place in society. To generally throw the weak to the wolves is an animalistic trait, one you espouse, not I. I'd say without one ounce of frivolity, it is you that espouse animalistic behaviour. Your, only the strong survive, is base animalism.

Med Man is hysterical...completely misinterprets the issue, then formulates his own faulty labels, attaches his labels to the OP and declares victory!!! Gosh, so ingenious, so wrong.

medicineman said:

Absolute hogwash. your hatred of liberals clouds your mental capacity. You see only what fascists have claimed as the libersls programs. You can readily see that the only the strong survive is the real law of the jungle. The law of humanity is to try and let even the weak have a place in society. To generally throw the weak to the wolves is an animalistic trait, one you espouse, not I. I'd say without one ounce of frivolity, it is you that espouse animalistic behaviour. Your, only the strong survive, is base animalism.

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Strange, I'd actually accuse Fascists of the same thing, if there was truly such a thing as Fascism as being a distinct ideology from Socialism, but Socialism and Fascism were faces of the same coin.

And you missed the discussion entirely Med.

If it is impossible for humanity to enjoy those achievements that define humanity as being itself then what is the point of saving ourselves. If we are reduced to the level of animals because the government finds it necessary to destroy the middle class and working class and hold them down to a level of substinence where we are struggling to pay our bills and secure our basic needs then what is the point of living?

If we are reduced to being nothing more than animals, then what is the value of life. Living like animals is not what man was intended for. We are better than animals, because unlike animals we can enjoy a Reds Game at Great American Ball Park in Cincinnati , or we can enjoy Beethoven's Fifth Symphony or an opera, or a movie such as the new Star Trek film, or hanging out and socializing with friends and holding a conversation discussing whether or not doctors are over paid. Something that I am certain that animals do not have the ability to do, because I have yet to hear of any scientists discovering a bunch of apes sitting around a forum, theater or coliseum.

If those things are denied to us then what is the point in even calling ourselves human?

At that point we are nothing more than animals and thus our lives do not matter and do not have any value.

Life with out content is meaningless, pointless, and degrading. Humanity is more than just another animal.

I can see your point med, and I see yours also TBT. To me I don't need the gov't making sure everyone is clothed and fed and has the basics, no I can help a person out of my own pocket. When gov't helps the populace about 90% of the resources and capital are squandered on the gov't itself with little left over for the people. I am pretty sure most people can agree that the Gov't produces nothing of value, and is wholly incompetent and innefficient.

Did you know that the previous administration came up with a program to help peple keep their houses by refinancing under better terms? Its called " Hope for Homeowners" Know how many homes it has saved so far in the last year? 51, and of those 51 50 of the loans are under investigation by the justice department for fraud. thats your government for you.

Government suck at everything,
except convincing people they need Government.
They seem to have that down pat.

NoDrama said:

I can see your point med, and I see yours also TBT. To me I don't need the gov't making sure everyone is clothed and fed and has the basics, no I can help a person out of my own pocket. When gov't helps the populace about 90% of the resources and capital are squandered on the gov't itself with little left over for the people. I am pretty sure most people can agree that the Gov't produces nothing of value, and is wholly incompetent and innefficient.

Did you know that the previous administration came up with a program to help peple keep their houses by refinancing under better terms? Its called " Hope for Homeowners" Know how many homes it has saved so far in the last year? 51, and of those 51 50 of the loans are under investigation by the justice department for fraud. thats your government for you.

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Government is incredibly inefficient.

I read somewhere that the figure for money that goes from the top to the bottom in the Welfare Program is 20%, that is $16,000 of every $80,000 actually is paid out in benefits for aid recipients.

Government is a jobs program for thieves, bums, and incompetents.

TBT ...

Once again, you have outdone yourself with the posts in this thread. Kudos to you.

The Left, both Marxists and Fascists, see the members of society as members of The Hive. Everyone working together for the benefit of the entire society. The problem with that, is that we are not bees, we are humans. As humans, we are controlled by our innate human nature of self interest.

The only way the Left will ever get their dream of turning society into a mass of worker bees is by brute force. Yes, it has been tried before with murderous, horrendous results.

It is humans, working cooperatively through self interest, that has made this country great, with living standards far above those countries that have forced their citizens into the hives.

Until human nature can be changed, which enmasse is impossible, capitalism will remain the most moral economic system of all. THIS is what the liberals are stone-blind to and continue to miss.

Vi

ViRedd said:

TBT ...

Once again, you have outdone yourself with the posts in this thread. Kudos to you.

The Left, both Marxists and Fascists, see the members of society as members of The Hive. Everyone working together for the benefit of the entire society. The problem with that, is that we are not bees, we are humans. As humans, we are controlled by our innate human nature of self interest.

The only way the Left will ever get their dream of turning society into a mass of worker bees is by brute force. Yes, it has been tried before with murderous, horrendous results.

It is humans, working cooperatively through self interest, that has made this country great, with living standards far above those countries that have forced their citizens into the hives.

Until human nature can be changed, which enmasse is impossible, capitalism will remain the most moral economic system of all. THIS is what the liberals are stone-blind to and continue to miss.

Vi

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My thanks, just had a random collection of thoughts as a result of reflecting on what humanity is, and what separates us from animals.