Defoliation, a scientific approach...

Semper.Fi

Semper.Fi

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wrong thread dude . . . .


lilroach said:
It's been awhile since I've followed this thread.....sorry to see you've had the mandatory trolls visit.

From your last photos..... had I come across them without knowing the context of what you've done and not done to the two plants I would have said the one on the left (not defoliated) was a much better plant. More bud sites, bigger plant, and overall healthier looking.

You stated that you wanted to control size and height of the plant and that's why you defoliate.....well if you are trying to grow smaller shorter plants I guess defoliating is the way to go.

Thank you for attempting to do the side-by-side comparison. I'm sure you've felt like you stepped in a few landmines along the way when dealing with the trolls and flamers on here. I don't know if it was your intent, but your results has made me more of a believer of non-defoliating than before.
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AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Well... Here's the results. I'm not sure how long it's been since the last update, but I had to transfer them to smart pots to a different veg area. Guess which one was the defol..

See, what I did here is tell yall exactly to the letter what they would do in my garden. Now one (the defol) will have 20 clones in a week and the non defol, well I'm not sure.

Not so scientific, but it is scientific enough for me to run the defol train on my bitches in early veg. Wierd how my defol plant has way more leaves, more tops, more everything now. Wait, no its not wierd, I knew it would happen.

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Semper.Fi

Semper.Fi

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BLLLAAAMMMMMMM!!!! BLLLAAAMMMMMMM!!

Double tap!!

Killin it Alphaphase . . . . . nice one!!

It's weird , to everyone else, that such butchery in veg would produce a better plant!!


AlphaPhase said:
Well... Here's the results. I'm not sure how long it's been since the last update, but I had to transfer them to smart pots to a different veg area. Guess which one was the defol..

See, what I did here is tell yall exactly to the letter what they would do in my garden. Now one (the defol) will have 20 clones in a week and the non defol, well I'm not sure.

Not so scientific, but it is scientific enough for me to run the defol train on my bitches in early veg. Wierd how my defol plant has way more leaves, more tops, more everything now. Wait, no its not wierd, I knew it would happen.

Thanks. View attachment 3448776
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Semper.Fi

Semper.Fi

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Not so sure about such butchery in flower though . . . . .lmfao ;), we'll see . . . .. lol



Semper.Fi said:
BLLLAAAMMMMMMM!!!! BLLLAAAMMMMMMM!!

Double tap!!

Killin it Alphaphase . . . . . nice one!!

It's weird , to everyone else, that such butchery in veg would produce a better plant!!






~_
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AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Hell yeah man, it's a trip! I always run a strain free of butchery and 1 butchered and see which is best, most of the time in early veg the heavy pruning kills the untouched plant, at least 90% of the time. Some plants are finicky, but for the most part it works. As soon as roots have set I top and trim it a lot, let it recover and repeat (right now would be the time I start trimming the plant in the picture again). 8-)
 
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zaire mansour

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I think that some techniques definitely depend not only on the strain, but the pheno as well. Some strains and phenos simply get way too bushy for light to penetrate to the lower leaves and over all growth parts. So a trained eye should be used for defoliation on each plant that obviously has its own growth pattern....I would not defoliate ALL plants based on same strain but rather as each plant develops. defoliating lower leaves for larger yields has proven to be effective.
 
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