Deficiency Identification help

Moshkino

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Maybe just a weak pheno? The rest the girls are on same feed schedule and shes the only one having any issues
 

Skunk Baxter

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You going from seeds or clones? Just curious.

What are you using for water? Tap water, or RO? What's your PPM if it's tap? And what are you using for a growing medium? Soil or coco? Coco is notorious for magnesium deficiencies, and especially if you're using RO. A lot of cities' tap water has a fair amount of magnesium already in it, but if you're running RO water, you might need to boost your mag a bit. Especially if it is indeed coco.
 

Dr. Who

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I'd be holding off on the foliar sprays too for awhile but lemme see if I can get you some help.
If he does come around, pay attention to what he tells ya @Dr. Who

I see a micro nutrient def starting almost across the board.....
Start using a kelp extract and it'll stop.....The wrinckly new growth says so.

The blotchy or mottled look could be related or could be a pheno trait being expressed by the def.

If I were you (because of the heavy foliar use). I would get a big spray bottle for a yard or big garden and periodically spray down my plants with straight pH'ed water.
Be sure to spray the underside of the leaves!
I don't think you have stomata problem but, the above spraying is like "rain" in nature ~ "cleansing".

Personally, I'm wondering why the micro issue in comparison to the others.....Thing is that contributing factors in a soil run could be many.....Nutrient levels IN the soil. pH is a big factor.....but hard to be accurate in soil with out big $ meters and specific testing times to remove as much variation as possible......I simply water with pH'ed water/feed if I have doubts.

If you using water with a pH of 6.7 or more to start - your golden! If your feedings are pHing below 6.7 - I would adjust as low pH brings on more problems fast......IF it were low, I don't see any real evidence in your pics..

Get some Kelp extract and add it to your feed sched. I suspect micro needs are being effected by the foliar on that plant due to phenotype trait dominance....

Kelp it and forget it.
 

Moshkino

Member
I see a micro nutrient def starting almost across the board.....
Start using a kelp extract and it'll stop.....The wrinckly new growth says so.

The blotchy or mottled look could be related or could be a pheno trait being expressed by the def.

If I were you (because of the heavy foliar use). I would get a big spray bottle for a yard or big garden and periodically spray down my plants with straight pH'ed water.
Be sure to spray the underside of the leaves!
I don't think you have stomata problem but, the above spraying is like "rain" in nature ~ "cleansing".

Personally, I'm wondering why the micro issue in comparison to the others.....Thing is that contributing factors in a soil run could be many.....Nutrient levels IN the soil. pH is a big factor.....but hard to be accurate in soil with out big $ meters and specific testing times to remove as much variation as possible......I simply water with pH'ed water/feed if I have doubts.

If you using water with a pH of 6.7 or more to start - your golden! If your feedings are pHing below 6.7 - I would adjust as low pH brings on more problems fast......IF it were low, I don't see any real evidence in your pics..

Get some Kelp extract and add it to your feed sched. I suspect micro needs are being effected by the foliar on that plant due to phenotype trait dominance....

Kelp it and forget it.
Our Ph is definately in that range, last night I added roots organic earthworm castings as a top dress and added Organism XL to it which has the yucca and kelp soluble. Ill give her a day or two and see what reponse it has to that. Definately gonna do the foliar cleanse as well here b4 lights shut of for the 12hrs. Thank you for putting your mind to it and helpin me out meng.
 

Dr. Who

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Our Ph is definately in that range, last night I added roots organic earthworm castings as a top dress and added Organism XL to it which has the yucca and kelp soluble. Ill give her a day or two and see what reponse it has to that. Definately gonna do the foliar cleanse as well here b4 lights shut of for the 12hrs. Thank you for putting your mind to it and helpin me out meng.
Cool beans......I would still keep and use, some Age Old Kelp or Maxicrop seaweed....The only "mixed" seaweed I like is Thrive Alive (green label organic)......The 1-1-1 npk value is nice when late season heavy feeders are run.....I prefer adding "seaweeds" at full concentrations, so I control application value.....The Oregonism XL is more of a myco delivery with minor amounts of kelp/yucca. Yucca is only a "wetting" agent with some "sugar" values to "feed" the microbes...

Kelp is the best way to deliver "micro nutrients" to the soil (along with really good other things).
Oregonism XL delivers "living Microbes" to the soil.
 

Moshkino

Member
Cool beans......I would still keep and use, some Age Old Kelp or Maxicrop seaweed....The only "mixed" seaweed I like is Thrive Alive (green label organic)......The 1-1-1 npk value is nice when late season heavy feeders are run.....I prefer adding "seaweeds" at full concentrations, so I control application value.....The Oregonism XL is more of a myco delivery with minor amounts of kelp/yucca. Yucca is only a "wetting" agent with some "sugar" values to "feed" the microbes...

Kelp is the best way to deliver "micro nutrients" to the soil (along with really good other things).
Oregonism XL delivers "living Microbes" to the soil.
Dude your a fountain of goods man. Ill check with my grow shop and see what organic seaweeds they have, thrive alive sounds familar.
 

Dr. Who

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I'm having problems with lower leaves doing this then moving up not sure if it's a mag problem or something else can anyone help
I'll answer here this time. next time please start a new topic

When you ask a question on a suspected problem.
You should supply -

Pic(s) of the problem
Pic(s) of the whole plant - (I'm asking for that here please)
What you grow in
What you feed and how much/how often - list everything!

What is the media and who's is it
If you added anything to it


I'll give a detailed answer after you answer mine - I need it to zero in and give a plan of action.......I have several possibilities.
 
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