Deffincencies?

I way over watered my transplanted clones. About 8-10 gallons in the first 2 days with full nutes. They got really droopy. The watering was about 5 days ago. Today theyre finally starting to perk up again.

Now my leaves are turning colors. Yellow and black. I havnt watered them in about 5 days cause the coco was soaked. Im guessing theyre ready for nutrients again cause something is going on. 1 of the leaves curled up and died.
The light is at 400W. I had it all the way raised. I just dropped it to about 18 inches above the plants now.
(I do have mites, theyre speckling the leaves but this looks like something different).

Do you have a cloning vid on YouTube,. Tats look familiar
Or a l.s.t vid

Maybe nitrogen or sulfer deff

I thought that the whole draw of those smartpots was that you can't really overwater in them because they drain from everywhere so you never have the standing water that can drown the plants. I mean you could water them too often but you can't really overwater in one day, you know? They just look thirsty to me. Also if you watered with full strength nutes before a lot of that should still be in the soil, they just need it to be wet so they have access to it.

I water my coco daily... Coco is soilless it depends on you feeding... Could you go 5 days without food and water

ZerocoolSmith said:

I way over watered my transplanted clones. About 8-10 gallons in the first 2 days with full nutes. They got really droopy. The watering was about 5 days ago. Today theyre finally starting to perk up again.

Now my leaves are turning colors. Yellow and black.

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10 gal water in 2 days with full nutes? What the fuck are you even thinking?

They got droopy and then turned yellow and black?

I cannot imagine why that would happen. I would say you got some jacked up clones, you should ask for your money back.

AimAim said:

10 gal water in 2 days with full nutes? What the fuck are you even thinking?

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Hahahha, well a friend came over and did it. Hes been growing successfully for 15 years. It was his idea. He grows in rock wool though. This is my 1st grow. Clones looked extremely healthy when I got them. I kind of put them through the ringer already.

As far as the smart pots go, it still retained water. The coco is still wet and its been 5 days. I thought the same thing with "you cant over water in 1 sitting, but can over water by frequency." But the coco stayed wet for days and the bags were heavy. Today they finally perked up so I know they were over watered, now that some of it dried out.

Dude at my hydro store said it could take 1-2 weeks for it to fully dry out. Its been almost a week. He said to water them with super thrive in a small dose with water. Ill water them tomorrow. Coco is pretty damp still but your probably right Ace, its not wet enough for them to get the nutrients.

Came across this. I watered them with 5.8 PH both times I watered. So the PH in the coco must be really low. Does anyone think I should hit them with full nutes tomorrow or just water and super thrive for the 1st watering. Or 1/2 the nutes?

Dude, alright - 5.8 is the optimum pH for coco in veg. The above article is I think aimed at those using soil. pH in coco can be anywhere from 5.5-6.2 with 5.8 being ideal for veg. In late flowering you can bring the pH up a little (5.9-6.1) so the plants can absorb P a little better. I take it you had rooted clones that you put in your coco. What nutrients are you using? Do you have a PPM meter? If so, what is the PPM of the nutrient solution you are feeding your plants? When you transplant clones into your coco, start out at about 1/4 strength nutes and go from there. See how they respond, if they need more give them more. Also, keep in mind, due to the properties of coco (it does not "hold on" to calcium or magnesium), C and Mg MUST be supplemented if you are not using coco specific nutrients. When the plants are young, ALWAYS let the coco dry out slightly regardless of what anyone tells you. This will encourage the plants roots to search for water in turn creating a more robust root structure. Also, superthrive is good stuff, I use it regularly on all my vegging plants and my mothers. Just mix in a 1/4 teaspoon to your regular nutrient solution weekly, or add about a drop per gallon every watering. Discontinue superthrive in flower. I grow exclusively in coco and smart pots, just like you, and I have been for years. If you have any other questions, visit my grow journal (link below) and ask there, I would be happy to help you out.

Eshhhhh. You went full strength nutrients on 2 day old clones??? A 15 year vet told you this? What?...how? You're talking about 2 days beginning veg (like 2 weeks to get roots established) right?

You will be lucky if they survive. You would be better off starting a fresh batch from seed, its going to take at least 2 weeks for them to recover completely from the shock, and their growth is going to be stunted pretty good. I once used the wrong strength when I had 2 youngsters about 2 weeks old moved in with a few moms.

They did the same, the leaves turned almost white with shades of purple. They survived but never recovered, I ended up flowering them and got very small yields compared to others.

5.8-6.1 is what I run. Plants seem good with that. I use mostly AN stuff. When I run clones I usually give them half full nutrients after about 2 weeks from snip (foliar spray too). Some have fewer roots than others, its just makes it easier.

On the 3rd day when the plants begin to droop. He said they looked nutrient deprived. He told me the complete opposite of what everyone else did. I dont know why.

Great advice. I did water them at 5.8. The ppm was 430 the first watering and 720 the 2nd (probably too high for small plants). Heres what I got for nutes, havnt used the armor kote or high brix yet

why do don't you all do yourselves a favor instead of using the nutrients in a bottle and switch to Supersoil. You can mix it yourselves or you can buy a charge pack but better yet if your in a state with TGA pre bagged supersoil go with that. The whole way through flowering you ad nothing but water and some carbs if you like. It really produces some serious dank. Organic is the way to go I used to do the whole bottle stuff but no more it really does take away the true essence of the plant using the bottle nutes you may get a bigger yield at times but also smell and taste can be affected. I want my dank to be her full potential with no added garbage that does the same thing that good soil does.

You want to take care of your Mites asap also if not there gonna spread to everything and get out of control and if that happens then it is best to just scrap everything and start from seed. Wherever your clones came from if they had mites then chances are that grower they came from is a sub par grower at best.

Ill look into the soil, adding only water sounds nice. I heard coco was best for starters. I probably would have drowned the plants to death if they were in soil.

The clones were extremely healthy when I got them. But I didnt check for mites. They were in my closet for 2 days under a dome and light before transplant. I gave some away and those have mites too. No way to tell where they came from. But I sprayed neem once, spraying again tomorrow. And hopefully in a 4-5 days theyll be alot healthier and I can use something a bit stronger.

Clones in my closet before transplant

ZerocoolSmith said:

On the 3rd day when the plants begin to droop. He said they looked nutrient deprived. He told me the complete opposite of what everyone else did. I dont know why. BECAUSE HE WANTED TO SELL YOU SOME OVERPRICED BULLSHIT FERTILIZER, THAT'S WHY

Great advice. I did water them at 5.8. The ppm was 430 the first watering and 720 the 2nd (probably too high for small plants). Heres what I got for nutes, havnt used the armor kote or high brix yet

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Those are really nice looking labels on those bottles.

Some people will harp on bottled nutrients constantly, especially those who choose to grow organically. That's fine if that's what they choose. As far as bottled nutrients go - yes, there is plenty of bullshit marketing for many nutrients out there. Yes, a lot of the additives are not necessary and some may do more harm than good. Yes, hydroponics stores will sometimes try to sell you things you don't need. However, if you do choose to grow in coco and use bottled nutrients that is fine too. I do, and I promise you the weed I grow is "dank" as fuck. Just do some research here on RIU and see what works. Experiment with different things and see what works for you. I personally use the "lucas formula" which is a cheap and extremely effective formula for coco. All it is a formula that calls for GH flora micro and flora bloom for the ENTIRE (veg-bloom) growth cycle, with a little added cal-mag. If you want to go with the "floranova" series, you can ditch the bottle of grow and stick with floranova bloom throughout the entire growth cycle. It has plenty of nitrogen in it for both veg and bloom. I use floranova BLOOM for my mothers and I have never had any problems: View attachment 2949405View attachment 2949406

I have seen a lot of people go back and forth at each other on here regarding organics this, coco that, bottled nutrients are shit, etc etc...In my personal experience, I have grown both in soil and in coco. I find that coco is the best of both the hydroponic and soil world. The growth rate is quicker than soil (again, in my experience), yet the bud grown from it does not lose it's flavor as it might using other hydroponics methods.