Day 7 from sprouting. Jack Herer Indoor Grow. Help me.

St1kybudz

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A pleasant day, master growers!

Here are some pictures of my seedlings:

Seedling 1:
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Seedling 2:
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What would be the issues you could observe at this early stage of growth? I was just wondering if there are any early signs of deficiencies or issues from the looks of the leaves? Also, seedling 2 kind of bends over because of the overall weight of its leaves. Pictured here:

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I had to put a support for the seedling for fear of breaking the stem, What could this mean? Is my light too far from the plant? I think the leaf structure in the above image is kind disproportionate with its stem? Hehe!

I would appreciate input. Noob here so be kind! Peace! Keep tokin'!

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A fan blowing the plant around would have helped as the plant bends around in the wind it produces a chemical that hardens the stem other than that they look perfect in these pics and this is the best lit I've been able to find IMHO these books will help u alot they have me1446437581925-1514391153.jpg144643770918073731526.jpg
 
I got the same prob treated mine with cal mag 2-0-0 2 ml per gal well see how it goes check out my deep cheese x bay dream and blue og grow
Damn, those books look awesome but I'm limited to ebooks I can download. Don't have money to buy awesome grow literature. Thanks for the input bro! Checked out your grow and yeah, yours look awesome. Good luck to us, man! Cheers!
 

St1kybudz

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Checked em this morn realized that I forgot to add lime to my soilless mix I'm thinking it's gonna be the ph messing with mine
 
Checked em this morn realized that I forgot to add lime to my soilless mix I'm thinking it's gonna be the ph messing with mine
My lower leaf tips yellowed today. I wonder. Could this be nute burn or something?

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Thanks for the input bro. Be careful with your Ph. It could be a slippery slope from there. Hehe! Cheers!

nobody has mentioned your lack of aeration man.
that'll be a problem for sure.
you want at least 33% of your mix to be aeration.
especially at that age, those roots are gonna be sick and spindly
Hey, man. Thanks! Haven't watered in 24 hours since you posted. I got kinds tripped out on your post regarding aeration! Thanks for reminding me bro.
 

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greasemonkeymann

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My lower leaf tips yellowed today. I wonder. Could this be nute burn or something?

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Thanks for the input bro. Be careful with your Ph. It could be a slippery slope from there. Hehe! Cheers!



Hey, man. Thanks! Haven't watered in 24 hours since you posted. I got kinds tripped out on your post regarding aeration! Thanks for reminding me bro.
it'll be tricky, but i'd transplant that lil lady to a different mix, and give it a week to re-coop.
it's almost impossible to grow a healthy plant with no aeration.
 
it'll be tricky, but i'd transplant that lil lady to a different mix, and give it a week to re-coop.
it's almost impossible to grow a healthy plant with no aeration.
How about just flushing it with water? That's a really big pot and I'm kind of afraid of transplanting and screwing up the root system. I'm just going to dry out the soil, flush and see what happens. Would that be alright? Looks like nute burn doesn't it? Or maybe too much light? Thanks man!

Here's the other plant, BTW:

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greasemonkeymann

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How about just flushing it with water? That's a really big pot and I'm kind of afraid of transplanting and screwing up the root system. I'm just going to dry out the soil, flush and see what happens. Would that be alright? Looks like nute burn doesn't it? Or maybe too much light? Thanks man!

Here's the other plant, BTW:

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no, it's not nute burn, and don't flush anything man, just be super light when you water it, and after watering i'd lightly "scratch" the surface of the soil to sorta help it dry, you also will want a fan blowing near it, not ON it, but near.
I think the plant looks alright , considering...
also keep in mind, most of the time, an young plant like that won't exhibit many deficiencies already, those take longer to manifest themselves..
that looks like a different issue, and my guess would be the roots suffocating/retaining too much water.
Also worth mentioning both of those are super hard to remedy without improving soil quality.
 
no, it's not nute burn, and don't flush anything man, just be super light when you water it, and after watering i'd lightly "scratch" the surface of the soil to sorta help it dry, you also will want a fan blowing near it, not ON it, but near.
I think the plant looks alright , considering...
also keep in mind, most of the time, an young plant like that won't exhibit many deficiencies already, those take longer to manifest themselves..
that looks like a different issue, and my guess would be the roots suffocating/retaining too much water.
Also worth mentioning both of those are super hard to remedy without improving soil quality.
Ah. I see, I just have to dry-out the soil then and see what happens. You're probably right about the over-watering part. I'll keep you posted bro. @greasemonkeymann thank you for your input! First time indoor grower and I appreciate all the help!
 

greasemonkeymann

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Ah. I see, I just have to dry-out the soil then and see what happens. You're probably right about the over-watering part. I'll keep you posted bro. @greasemonkeymann thank you for your input! First time indoor grower and I appreciate all the help!
anytime at all man, i'm happy to help.
If I may humbly offer a bit more of advice.
you can transplant that without too much damage..
scoop around the plant, all the way to the edges, and then slowly "curl" your fingers upward (under the plant) then it'll sorta pop up, and then if you are careful )and a lil lucky) you can get her into another container with the right soil, prep the new container first, and have a hole ready, try and keep the soil around the plant in one piece (obviously) then the new soil and it's improved aeration will sorta "wick" away the excess water from the rootball.
Yes, it will be hard, and yes you could kill it (but not likely, I've damn near murdered some plants when I first started, they rebound well)
this is what i'd do, if you keep it in that mix, you'll watch it get more and more sick.
 
anytime at all man, i'm happy to help.
If I may humbly offer a bit more of advice.
you can transplant that without too much damage..
scoop around the plant, all the way to the edges, and then slowly "curl" your fingers upward (under the plant) then it'll sorta pop up, and then if you are careful )and a lil lucky) you can get her into another container with the right soil, prep the new container first, and have a hole ready, try and keep the soil around the plant in one piece (obviously) then the new soil and it's improved aeration will sorta "wick" away the excess water from the rootball.
Yes, it will be hard, and yes you could kill it (but not likely, I've damn near murdered some plants when I first started, they rebound well)
this is what i'd do, if you keep it in that mix, you'll watch it get more and more sick.
Alright! I think I'm going to transplant them now. I thought I could correct the current soil mix in the proper condition necessary for growth but I'm going to try and transplant them now. Thanks! I'll post pics...in real-time prolly. Hahaha!
 

greasemonkeymann

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Alright! I think I'm going to transplant them now. I thought I could correct the current soil mix in the proper condition necessary for growth but I'm going to try and transplant them now. Thanks! I'll post pics...in real-time prolly. Hahaha!
just make sure you have good soil ready.
and be careful, go slow and you'll be ok
 
just make sure you have good soil ready.
and be careful, go slow and you'll be ok
Bro, I checked my soil and it's bone dry. Drainage seems good. I get to water it one a day rather than twice then I'll see what's up. I'll keep you posted. Thanks man!

PS: I'm starting a trial and error thing with the plant. I'm guessing that I used to water it a lot and now I'm going to follow farther intervals in-between watering. If it doesn't go well, I'm going to follow your advice and transplant it. Banking on good rebound rates of plants and how they're actually hard to kill. :)
 

St1kybudz

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Bro, I checked my soil and it's bone dry. Drainage seems good. I get to water it one a day rather than twice then I'll see what's up. I'll keep you posted. Thanks man!

PS: I'm starting a trial and error thing with the plant. I'm guessing that I used to water it a lot and now I'm going to follow farther intervals in-between watering. If it doesn't go well, I'm going to follow your advice and transplant it. Banking on good rebound rates of plants and how they're actually hard to kill. :)
Did you lime your soil or soilesss mix I got the same prob but a few days worse than yours checked the ph of my medium it was 5.0
 
Did you lime your soil or soilesss mix I got the same prob but a few days worse than yours checked the ph of my medium it was 5.0
Ph'd mine just now and all pots are at around 7ph. I think that's alright based on what I've read around forums. My soil is a ready to plant pre-mix bought from local gardeners. It has hummus soil, sand and a bit of bat guano.
 

tropicalcannabispatient

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Here's an update of my first and current grow at 11 days from sprouting. I got so psyched when I opened the grow cab today! I left the lights on for 26 hours and maaaaaaan, the results:

Here's the one with, what used to be, a weak stem:

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Plant 2 (stout and stockier):

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26 hours under the light and wow...just wow. The rate of development, in my opinion, is astounding. I grew land races before back when I was in high school and nothing else compared to how fast this things sprouts. Talk about JACK and the Beanstalk. *giggles*

Here's the overall view of my grow:

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Thanks!
I see u starting to get some early signs of deficiency's. Check this out. Yellowing its starting from the edges of leaves. Just ma 2 cents. Take it with a hint of salt! http://www.420magazine.com/forums/problems-pests-disease-control/81275-cannabis-plant-pest-problem-solver-pictorial.html
 

greasemonkeymann

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Bro, I checked my soil and it's bone dry. Drainage seems good. I get to water it one a day rather than twice then I'll see what's up. I'll keep you posted. Thanks man!

PS: I'm starting a trial and error thing with the plant. I'm guessing that I used to water it a lot and now I'm going to follow farther intervals in-between watering. If it doesn't go well, I'm going to follow your advice and transplant it. Banking on good rebound rates of plants and how they're actually hard to kill. :)
you are missing the point man, it's not htat the soil is wet or dry, its that it is too thick to allow the roots to get ample moisture without suffocating them.
it is irrelevant if its dry or wet,i t's the condition of the roots, and their access to BOTH moisture and oxygen.
I would, highly, highly, HIGHLY recommend NOT addressing anything else with the soil before getting them to the correct aerated soil.
chase the ph, or "deficiencies" and you'll be barking at the wrong tree man.
Trying to save you time.
 
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