Dark Cycle vs Light Cycle

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FATBOYFRESH

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It is known that FLOWERS/BUDS develop much more during the dark cycle

But what else is really known about the dark cycle?

My question is.... When recovering...from stressors.... Does that happen chiefly or mainly in the light cycle.. Or does all this occur during the dark cycle?

Chime in please
Thanks
 
potpimp

potpimp

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I would think it happens in the dark cycle but I don't really know. I know human muscles "grow" during the sleep cycle.
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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FATBOYFRESH said:
It is known that FLOWERS/BUDS develop much more during the dark cycle

But what else is really known about the dark cycle?

My question is.... When recovering...from stressors.... Does that happen chiefly or mainly in the light cycle.. Or does all this occur during the dark cycle?

Chime in please
Thanks
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Hmm that's funny, from where is this "known" that flowers and buds develop much more in the dark cycle?

I've never seen any research that proves this is true, and my own grows do not support this hypothesis as correct.
 
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FATBOYFRESH

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Resinhound said:
Hmm that's funny, from where is this "known" that flowers and buds develop much more in the dark cycle?

I've never seen any research that proves this is true, and my own grows do not support this hypothesis as correct.
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I've read that the dark cycle promotes growth.... E g. Increasing the dark cycle increases bud development
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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FATBOYFRESH said:
I've read that the dark cycle promotes growth.... E g. Increasing the dark cycle increases bud development
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do some searching on here. i'm sure you are aware 12/12 is what most people use for bloom phase

look at some journals where they tried 8/16 or even less light. shitty results.

proper enviro, lighting, nutes etc will get you the best bud developemnt
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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FATBOYFRESH said:
I've read that the dark cycle promotes growth.... E g. Increasing the dark cycle increases bud development
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Ya ya... We read all kinds of things, it doesn't make them true. Ive also read that trichome growth happens in darkness.

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Pictured are 2 different plants both grown from seed under 24hour light..

Do they look like they lack trichome or bud development?

I'm sorry, but this blanket statement is just not true.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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Resinhound said:
Ya ya... We read all kinds of things, it doesn't make them true. Ive also read that trichome growth happens in darkness.

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Pictured are 2 different plants both grown from seed under 24hour light..

Do they look like they lack trichome or bud development?

I'm sorry, but this blanket statement is just not true.
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check and mate! nice pics resinhound!

i love the argument that roots grow during the dark. then i showed them a pic of my old rdwc girl with basketball sized roots grown 24/0.
 
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FATBOYFRESH

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How does showing me two different resinous strains prove a point about a question NO ONE ASKED

1st to have made YOUR POINT vaild...picture's of both strains grown in the same environment.... ONE SET with 24/0 SECOND set having some dark period.....I can't tell if 24/0 is the proper cycle to achieve maximum results without the juxtaposition sir.....OBVIOUSLY


And talking about root growth in the dark.....another topic I DIDN'T ASK ABOUT

From what I gather.... The dark cycle TO YOU TWO GUYS has no earthly function then???!?
 
Resinhound

Resinhound

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For c3 plants the dark period is something they have to deal with, it's not something they need...I think I proved buds grow just fine in the absence of dark cycles.

Yes the dark cycle does have a use, it promotes stem growth and stretch.

But saying buds develop best in darkness is pure conjecture at best.

And it was about what you asked, it just wasn't what you wanted or expected to hear that's all.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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FATBOYFRESH said:
ONE SET with 24/0 SECOND set having some dark period.....I can't tell if 24/0 is the proper cycle to achieve maximum results without the juxtaposition sir.....OBVIOUSLY
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both pics are 24/0

just making the point that a dark cycle is not needed until you want to flower cannabis. then they need a dark period.

your original post came off like you were a bit of a know it all on the dark period. just 2 fellas here saying that isn't exactly true
 
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FATBOYFRESH

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Thanks guys I'm just studying and taking what I believe to be true and trying to expand. Its not about not hearing what I wanted or appearing to be a know it all..

The point of asking about the dark cycle us to see if cannabis can use that period to repair itself

Thanks fellas
 
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FATBOYFRESH

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rkymtnman said:
both pics are 24/0

just making the point that a dark cycle is not needed until you want to flower cannabis. then they need a dark period.

your original post came off like you were a bit of a know it all on the dark period. just 2 fellas here saying that isn't exactly true
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No doubt in my mind about the dark cycle not bring necessary when liking at your buds... They are glorious...

But if this is true..
Everything most have yo believe as true is not...

His did you get the plant to flower with no dark cycle??? AUTOs I presume
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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FATBOYFRESH said:
I think so too.... If it does help..... Then I know to use the dark period for healing the plant
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think about it this way in a dr phil voice:

you only need to HEAL the plant if you HARM the plant.

blast that bitch with 24 hrs of light and if everything is OK, she'll grow like a sum bitch. if they are photos, then give them a perfect 12hrs of light and your results will speak for themselves
 
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churchhaze

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FATBOYFRESH said:
It is known that FLOWERS/BUDS develop much more during the dark cycle

But what else is really known about the dark cycle?

My question is.... When recovering...from stressors.... Does that happen chiefly or mainly in the light cycle.. Or does all this occur during the dark cycle?

Chime in please
Thanks
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In darkness, Pfr (phytochrome far red) is converted to Pr (phytochrome red). It takes approximately 2 hours for 0% of total phytochromes to be in the form of Pfr.

Pfr is considered the "active" form of phytochrome in cannabis. The %Pfr (% of total phytochromes in the form of Pfr) determines the plants sleep cycle, the rate at which it burns starch at night so it runs out exactly at sunup (memory), and determines how fast each branch should stretch (low %Pfr during the day will cause a branch to stretch) and whether or not a branch is shaded by another branch or exposed to direct sunlight.
 
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FATBOYFRESH

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rkymtnman said:
think about it this way in a dr phil voice:

you only need to HEAL the plant if you HARM the plant.

blast that bitch with 24 hrs of light and if everything is OK, she'll grow like a sum bitch. if they are photos, then give them a perfect 12hrs of light and your results will speak for themselves
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The plant is a lil under and I qaa thinking that the dark cycle can be of some help.. I already run 24/0
 
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FATBOYFRESH

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churchhaze said:
In darkness, Pfr (phytochrome far red) is converted to Pr (phytochrome red). It takes approximately 2 hours for 0% of total phytochromes to be in the form of Pfr.

Pfr is considered the "active" form of phytochrome in cannabis. The %Pfr (% of total phytochromes in the form of Pfr) determines the plants sleep cycle, the rate at which it burns starch at night so it runs out exactly at sunup (memory), and determines how fast each branch should stretch (low %Pfr during the day will cause a branch to stretch) and whether or not a branch is shaded by another branch or exposed to direct sunlight.
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OK...this information is what I have studied alittle bit on.. I was wondering if the dark period is the time a plant would undertake to repair itself
 
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