crossing strains and such

Im gonna do it with my dinafem.while.widow auto.....just spray a few of the lower branches on her and she will produce a few sacks and they will open and polinate herself correct?

Dannoo93 said:

So if I spray my lsd plant a few branches it can self polinate right and give me straight fem.lsd seeds cuz id be happy with that......if I take my diesel auto.spray it get pollen pollinate my cssh(critical super silver haze) get seeds from that spray that seed get pollen and spray another cssh x diesel seed get those seeds and spray em and polinate em and so on?

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this is correct
spray a female in each generation to get her to self pollinate.
just have to keep her isolated.

OR take clones and spray them, which is what i do.
then you can collect the pollen separately and just paint it on with a hobby brush.
that way you can leave the females all together and have a separate spot for the males you create from female clones.

https://www.rollitup.org/breeders-paradise/20319-seed-production-tutorial.html

https://www.rollitup.org/breeders-paradise/479685-breeding-collective-information.html

https://www.rollitup.org/breeders-paradise/712496-how-make-feminized-seeds-stolen.html


read through those... they are threads on here about seed production.

There isn't currently one on how to create autoflowering strains. but with you asking i will find the information that can be easily understood and bring it to RIU for everyone to use..

SxIstew said:

this is correct
spray a female in each generation to get her to self pollinate.
just have to keep her isolated.

OR take clones and spray them, which is what i do.
then you can collect the pollen separately and just paint it on with a hobby brush.
that way you can leave the females all together and have a separate spot for the males you create from female clones.

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That seems best I just cracked my lsd seed so ill prop try to take clones and put em straight to 12,12 and use them for pollen...now I hear people say dry polled and freeze it how do.u do that....I also have dinafem white widow auto,dinafem critical jack,afghan kush ryder and berry ryder Idk which auto I should do seed stock with

SxIstew said:

Dannoo93 said:

So if I spray my lsd plant a few branches it can self polinate right and give me straight fem.lsd seeds cuz id be happy with that......if I take my diesel auto.spray it get pollen pollinate my cssh(critical super silver haze) get seeds from that spray that seed get pollen and spray another cssh x diesel seed get those seeds and spray em and polinate em and so on?

Click to expand...

this is correct
spray a female in each generation to get her to self pollinate.
just have to keep her isolated.

OR take clones and spray them, which is what i do.
then you can collect the pollen separately and just paint it on with a hobby brush.
that way you can leave the females all together and have a separate spot for the males you create from female clones.

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And you said do it with every generation if I grow out say 1lsd plant mspray here she self polinates and gives a crapton of seeds I shouldnt need to spray those seeds again and make them.self polinate since they are all the same....sorry for asking so.l much just excited to.do this

Crossing 2 main fem.strains is it worth it lsd x cssh ? I only want to really do it once and have a good seed stock

crossing 2 strains CAN be worth it. it also has it's disadvantages.

You have no knowledge of breeding, you have no experience with breeding, you don't know what genetic traits are desirable within the 2 strains you want to cross. and you don't know what bed traits you will bring out after the cross.

You can always produce a crappy strain if you don't know what you are doing, how to look for traits, and stuff like that.

I am not an expert on breeding. i am just getting into breeding myself.

The only difference is, I looked up all my information, and read every book there is on breeding basics.

There are plenty of websites out there with the information you seek.

Google:
Marijuana Breeding Basics
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that should help you more than i can

QUESTION STEW

i take two clones from the same plant use tm / cs on one to herm her, then i pollinate the 2nd true female cut.

how many phenos will i get or will i have effectivley made a seed clone as only one set of dna has been used??

That's not crossing. if they are the same plant you'd be creating an S1 generation. which should retain the phenotype of you parents. Both being clones of the same mother you are basically just doing something called Breeding back..

When a breeder find a strain they want to continue working with they will breed it back for the extra seed stock.

But if the clone you pollinate is from a different plant than the one you get pollen from, even being the same strain, you can expect difference in phenotypes if the parent plants(being the same strain) grow differently.

Again i want to state. I am NOT an expert on breeding. i have simply read all the available information on it. there are many websites with the info including wiki. just google F1 hybrid or S1 generation

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naw man its all good i have been told that exact same thing before buy a good breeder just wanted confirmation and to add it to the thread even though op sounds well lost.

great answer btw, its word for word the same lol

I guess ill just stick to back breeding so I can create my own seed stock I honestly hate doing clones pain in the ass

if you have or can afford the right gear(like $25 total) you can get a 100% success rate for you clones. I've lost 1 clone this grow. and it was from taking out of the 100%RH too fast that killed it.


Use rapid rooter plugs, tray, insert, dome, Olivia's or Clonex cloning solution, and any cloning gel you can get your hands on.

If done correctly you can get as many plants as you have room for.

this way you can keep clones in veg separately while you flower the rest. and you'll have plants ready for cloning and flowering again once you harvest.


That is the easiest way to save yourself money instead of waiting the 2 months for a plant to grow up enough to flower.

If you work with clones, you can try new things with you nutes and soils. this will give you a range of what she can or can't take. and you can figure out what works best to give you the highest yield, for that strain, you can possibly get using the light you have.

you gotta learn mate its the only way to truely keep ya fave strain going.

GOOGLE everything man stews got shit to do im sure and by the sounds of it he took his time to read now its your turn...

theres no shortcuts mate!

roll a phatty n getcha reading specs on PEACE!!!!

Ohh no I get almost 100% with clones got an areo cloner but I like seeds better so im gonna take my 4bulb 100 watt t5 take one auto of choice keep in closet spray with Tiresias Mist and let it self polinate and produce seeds now from my understanding from what I have read and u said that auto will create the exact same auto seeds...now since im keeping it all the same strwin I will not require further backcrossing right....now when I take lsd and take clones I will put one straight into 12/12 and spray it when male pods show I will put said clone in bag when pods open to collect pollen then take another clone and and when pistols show I will paint said pollen from lsd onto lsd buds and get seeds...now will one clone produce a decent amount of seeds?

FUCKIN RIGHT!!!!

hell yeah you got it now......


Exactly what you said. Isolate your auto, self pollinate, auto seeds in return without back crossing..... = Your S1 generation of auto seeds.....


LSD-take clone turn male, collect pollen sacs, dry pollen sacs, and crush them upyou can get a powdery pollen from that.(this is what i do)

take your female clone (2-3 weeks INTO flowering at 12/12) and paint the pollen on her pistils.

I suggest taking her out of the grow room at this time. paint the pollen on and then very lightly MIST with water.
this way your fans will not spread the pollen to any other plants you may have going at the time.

You can pollinate the entire clone or just a branch. it's your choice.
The more you pollinate, the more seeds you produce.

You can also pollinate the plants that grow from these seeds. and they should, from what i have read, be your S2 and identical to the previous generation. you can continue to collect pollen with each generation or just store it.

Google: Storing Cannabis Pollen. and there will be plenty of threads or articles on the subject.,

I can't keep going in only 1 thread. i need to give help to others. If you need anything more i'll try to stop back in to answer any question.

Remember Google has just as much info as me. you can read so many other threads here or on other sites. i suggest sticking with this one, because we are not all assholes to newb anything. in your case breeding.

Good luck
Stew

Is there really a point to make s2,s3 seeds if u get enough the first time

when you run low on your S1 you can create more for future use.
but they will no longer be S1 if you pollinate and S1(selfed) with the P1(parent)

S1 x P1 - S2......
S1 x self - S2


This is only from info i read.
But it's just to further your available seeds. nothing more.

this is info i read on another site a few weeks ago.

just plug your questions into google, and add the word cannabis to the end. it will ALWAYS show you informational threads with the answers. because all of these questions have been asked and answered before by other

Also is it safe to take 4 dif clone strains keep em all in same tent spray all with TM and pick pollen pods store separately so I can do 4 dif fathers at one time or is it best to isolate each plant to collect the pollen...if u understand what im asking