Critical Mass Tree Grow x 2

would love to know your nuirts and feeding shedule? like what do u use at which stages in the plants and how much? i hope thats not asking to much. just trying to get me a great plat form. i have a few more questions based on what u will tell me

Hi shake shake

I usually use Ionic nutrients, which is a simple one part nutrient. I veg at an EC of approx EC 1.0 and flower at EC 1.2 to 1.4 and never higher.

I feed the veg nutrients for 2 weeks into 12/12 and then switch to flower nutrients to help prevent premature yellowing and leaf drop in late flower.

Heath

you think i can grow trees like this? if so what would i have to do different? i have been studing you man and when i start my next grow i will go in this direction. i will start wit critical mass as well. and i will use ionic nuits. do you have any other pointers??

big ups to u heath iv read every post of yours hear and@ the cabanna your an inspiration to us all thanx. have u seen the current culture systems "CCH2O" ? I MADE ONE with 18 gallon totes for some trees cant wait to try it but half to wait till i get to Colorado.

Heath Robinson said:

Here you go shake shake, scrog69 and XxNinjaxX :Waterfarm mods for Tree/Bush style growing. the archived Waterfarm mods for Tree/Bush style growing thread, all your questions should be answered if you read this thread, if you need any more info ask away.


Heath

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Hey man I put in the time to scrape that thread and make a pdf. Where could we post that for the congrigation?

Heath have you tried any other mediums with your waterfarm mods other than hygroton? Was thinking about the Sure to Grow loose fill.

nice man im growin critical mass at the moment hope mine turns out somthing like that any tips i hear there prone to mould

Hello!

Im reaaaally impressed of your work! And thanks alot for sharing with all of us other!
I have 3x600w system, 4x8 tent. And now im about to flower out 3 old, really big/bushy motherplants and 3 younger. All in coco and will handwater.

How would you have placed the plants and where should i hang the bulbs?
Should i use bare bulbs or go with cooltubes? cant cooldown the tubes so that will in that case only be so that the plants cant grow in to the light.

Thanks for reading and your all welcome to answer me as im 100% new to vertical.

Chears

hi heath first of all congrats on the grow. just have a couple quick questions if your still around Ive got cm on the way in the mail and im planing to do a 4 tub set up with rock wool in a square configuration now what are your thoughts of me running 8-10 600w lights around them? something like 2 in the middle 1 higher than the other and the rest spread around the out sides.

with the veg ill be using the 600's as well so i need to know
how many 600's should i run during the veg period
how far should i keep them off the plants (assuming further than ur 400)
during veg should the shades be on the lights
is it a good idea to alternate lights coming on during veg on a daily basis (so light 1-3 one day then 2-4 the next)

if i can get these answers ill really appreciate it

cheers
jay

so what is your opinion on the matter of hanging 1000s over 600s. Will the 600 do enough penetration through the plant

does he just top feed and let the rest drain out the bottom?

at what height is the drain of the main tub...

i assume there are 2 tubs, one with holes in the bottom, suspended in a larger tub... that has a drain hole or 2.

describe setup, thanks

also, what precaustions do you take to keep your roots from getting diseased? or some sort of bugs? thanks

eric8313 said:

so what is your opinion on the matter of hanging 1000s over 600s. Will the 600 do enough penetration through the plant

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hey there if you can regulate temp to a 75 to 82 far more power to ya try to go vertical on bulbs they really like it and you can drop that bulb right down in between about mid plant.

daisy187 said:

hey there if you can regulate temp to a 75 to 82 far more power to ya try to go vertical on bulbs they really like it and you can drop that bulb right down in between about mid plant.

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im going vertical, but i feel the 600's are the way to go... i think a 1000 would burn leaves

i cant even think of something to say i am dumbfounded lol also quick question what is ec i read the whole thread once but don t recall you say n

this is going to my first outdoor grow and i have 97 seeds. I'll appreciate all the help i could get or just come by and check my grow journal out and subscribe. see how everything turns out for my gorilla grow!

so which do you think is a better bang for the bulb... your tree grows, or your vertical tubes?

where did you get this strain of critical mass? im trying to find a seed or a clone to a plant with the kind of potential you grow. Thanks buddy

Hi heath, Your work is great keep it up dude. I am thinking of doing hydro next been doing soil for a while now with good results but since seeing your grows me wants more. I seen your green giants x ak47 in the aeroflo system WOW. I want to grow the same strain just wondering what system would be best I'm thinking aeroflo might be abit advanced for first time also what ec and best ph would i get same growth rate with another system?

Im getting ready to experiment with a vertical grow inspired by heath.
My question is about vegging and the stretch after moving plants into the flower room and into the vertical system. I know its probably ideal to veg vertical, but is it absolutely necessary? My current veg plants that are scheduled to go into the vert system have been vegged normally under a t-5 florouescent. This strain (blackberry kush) isnt my first choice to run in this experiment. But excitement has gotten the better of me and the BB is what i have ready.
Ive grown the BB strain for about a year and know it quite well. I usually start them into flower at between 12-18 inches tall and they end up at about 28-35 inches at harvest.
Now.. whats got me stumped.. when i put these plants into the vert system with a bulb hung down the center .. are the plants still going to stretch upwards? therefore will i need to tie them back to the trellis as the continue to grow up and in? sounds pretty newb i know, but first time going vert.
Heres a couple pics to give you an idea of the plans.
The way it is going to be setup is the plants will be put in the outside holes.
10 plants, 3 on the left, 3 on the right, and 2 back 2 front surrounding a 600watt bulb hung down the center. A fan placed in the center blowing heat from the bulb up and out. Each side will have a trellis to tie the plants and train.
First pic shows the system run normally.

2nd pic shows how the trellis will be setup. one of 4 sides.

3rd pic is a crude rough draft

and 4th shows the perpetual grow as it is now.

any thoughts will be appreciated

I veg horizontally and then move them into the vert to flower. In the vert the plants still grow upward although it is a good idea to "lead" them a bit - hang the bulb just above the height of the canopy.