Crinkled leaves in organic soil

Buggins

Buggins

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I'm getting this weird crinkled looking foliage on a few plants, and I'm not sure if it's a ph problem, or a little too hot with the nutrients.

It only seems to affect the newer growth, and only on a few plants.

They are about 8 weeks old in vegetation, under 400 watt mh. Fan blowing on them all day, and temps are about 70 degrees consistently. 5 gallon pots with a modified super soil.

I have not been able to check ph recently because my back is effed, and I can't lift the pots at the moment to catch the runoff.

Has anyone seen this before? Any ideas?

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Endur0xX

Endur0xX

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where are those spider mites coming from ... is it possible that they were IN the soil prior to transplant or they usually come in through the air intake!? I have nylon socks for woman to block my air intake but I am wondering if it would stop the spider mites? if not, what can spray around my window or whatever to keep em out!!!?
 
Buggins

Buggins

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No mites, did a thorough check today and they are bug free, except about a dozen ladybugs keepin watch over my plants for me.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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Spider mites don't make leaves behave that way, heat does though.

I'm actually not sure about the crinkling. But the warped/twisted thing is usually heat
 
Buggins

Buggins

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I agree Dan, but that is not the case here. Temps are very even and comfortable, so that aint it.
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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I get similar crinkling on occasion, it's generally pH related. I only seem to get it after a fresh transplant, and it always clears up within a few days. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
 
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Wetdog

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Wolverine97 said:
I get similar crinkling on occasion, it's generally pH related. I only seem to get it after a fresh transplant, and it always clears up within a few days. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
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I do to. Could be pH or a *hot spot*, or ???????.

You go WTF??? It goes away and life goes on.

Wet
 
Buggins

Buggins

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Thanks guys, that makes the most sense to me too.

I'm not overly concerned about it, as I have seen this before and it always seems to grow out after a little while. I just wanted to get a few opinions to make sure this wasn't something that was going to cause a serious problem down the road.
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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Honestly, I'd like to know just what exactly is causing it too. I strive for perfection, and would like everything to be optimal. I do notice that it happens a bit more when I use mosquito dunks on fresh transplants.
 
Buggins

Buggins

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In my situation, it only seems to be happening on new growth, in a few select plants.

The new growth points to over-fertilization as this is what part of the plant would be affected first, as opposed to deficiencies which often show at the bottom of the plant first.

It seems to be only happening on the plants that are known for being light feeders.

I'm actually already seeing a slight improvement in a few of them as they are growing larger and using more nutrients.

For all these reasons I think that it is probably just a "hot spot" in the organic soil, and once the roots grow out more, they either move past the hot spot, or just are eating a lot more.
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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Buggins said:
In my situation, it only seems to be happening on new growth, in a few select plants.

The new growth points to over-fertilization as this is what part of the plant would be affected first, as opposed to deficiencies which often show at the bottom of the plant first.

It seems to be only happening on the plants that are known for being light feeders.

I'm actually already seeing a slight improvement in a few of them as they are growing larger and using more nutrients.

For all these reasons I think that it is probably just a "hot spot" in the organic soil, and once the roots grow out more, they either move past the hot spot, or just are eating a lot more.
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You're description of how you're diagnosing deficiency is flawed. It's not true that all deficiencies start at the bottom, that's only true for mobile elements like nitrogen, and not true for most trace elements. The crinkling is generally considered to be pH related though.
 
Buggins

Buggins

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Wolverine97 said:
You're description of how you're diagnosing deficiency is flawed. It's not true that all deficiencies start at the bottom, that's only true for mobile elements like nitrogen, and not true for most trace elements. The crinkling is generally considered to be pH related though.
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That's why I said often, and not every time. I'm just generalizing here.

You just finished stating that you weren't sure what it is either, and now you are saying that the crinkling is ph related.

So the question is, do you really know for sure, or are you just trying to make me look dumb?
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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Buggins said:
That's why I said often, and not every time. I'm just generalizing here.

You just finished stating that you weren't sure what it is either, and now you are saying that the crinkling is ph related.

So the question is, do you really know for sure, or are you just trying to make me look dumb?
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No, I do not know for sure which is why I said "generally considered". I'm definitely not trying to make anyone look dumb, I don't do that unless someone is being a jackass. I just saw an error and wanted to let you know.
 
Buggins

Buggins

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Wolverine97 said:
No, I do not know for sure which is why I said "generally considered". I'm definitely not trying to make anyone look dumb, I don't do that unless someone is being a jackass. I just saw an error and wanted to let you know.
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Fair enough, thanks for the clarification.

Cheers mate.
 
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diggindirt

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believe I'm having the same problem (thread in plant problem section) and I did have PH issues due to recycled soil. Have yet to get a good answer on what it is specifically, but I'm thinking a micronutrient or something was locked out? One plant of two has fixede itself since re-planting in new soil, but the other is still wonky... good luck on figuring it out mate!
 
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