Creation vs Evolution vs Whatever Else

lets be mature here just explain how you believe the world came to be and well....weed where did it come from and why is it here? was it created, evolved, planted by space aliens, really what do you think?

TheHighClub said:

lets be mature here just explain how you believe the world came to be and well....weed where did it come from and why is it here? was it created, evolved, planted by space aliens, really what do you think?

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My personal belief is that God Created through evolution.

I believe he said let there be light earth etc, and it happened through evolution

As far as weed, I believe like most plants they evolved from other plants adapting to their environment.

I think there is some confusion in which people think that as god said "let there be", that it was instantaneous.

Just my thoughts

Trying to get this thread started

First of all "God" is only a word, a sound, or vocal vibration.

Personally I believe the Universe has always existed in some form or another. The problem human minds run into when thinking about "creation" and our origins is the concepts of time! Time is very tricky...as it is subjective in nature...AND it is well known that time is relative to our own personal experience when we smoke cannabis. So, an eternal universe is rather hard to fathom from our perspective. We cannot know at this moment in the game exactly how or why the universe created us (abiogenesis) but we know that homo sapiens and all life are most definitely a product of evolution.

I will not try to use my words because i will fail,but if you have some time and a open mind,here are a couple articles that will speak for me.
http://www.garnertedarmstrong.org/pubs/Migration.htm

http://www.garnertedarmstrong.org/pubs/CreateEvol-Life.htm

http://www.garnertedarmstrong.org/pubs/CreateAdam.htm

OPH

Man is everyone still reading,or do i know how to kill a thread.Sorry Highclub,did not mean for that to happen.OPH

old pothead said:

Man is everyone still reading,or do i know how to kill a thread.Sorry Highclub,did not mean for that to happen.OPH

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yeah....they're really long. what are the basics of the philosophy?

HiScores said:

yeah....they're really long. what are the basics of the philosophy?

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Hiscore,if i tried to give you the basics it would be longer than the links.I would end up butchering what the peice is trying to say.I do not expect anyone to read them all,just pick one and have a gPH

To answer the title, I believe in evolution, I dont believe in creation. As for how the world came to be, well, I dont know off hand, but I'm sure I would accept whatever the common scientific concensus is at the moment.

As for weed, it came about like every other living I suppose. Initially from some primitive form of life, which evolved over the course of millions of years. There is no why.

The chance that higher life forms might have emerged through evolution is comparable with the chance that a 'tornado sweeping through a junk-yard might assemble a flyable Boeing 747 from the materials therein, or that an explosion in a print shop created the entire unabridged encyclopedia britannica".
I simply cannot accept that life appeared in a void of lifelessness and that the complexities of this world are the result of random chance.
My opinion only.
Peace,
GWN

We are the universe made manifest, separate pieces of a whole that is struggling to figure itself out.

Marijuana is just one of the keys to self-exploration.

GreatwhiteNorth said:

The chance that higher life forms might have emerged through evolution is comparable with the chance that a 'tornado sweeping through a junk-yard might assemble a flyable Boeing 747 from the materials therein, or that an explosion in a print shop created the entire unabridged encyclopedia britannica".
I simply cannot accept that life appeared in a void of lifelessness and that the complexities of this world are the result of random chance.
My opinion only.
Peace,
GWN

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well said. All bullshit aside .....WELL SAID!!!

Life is just a collection of lifeless particles. And in infinite space and time, anything that is possible will happen.

does it come down to creation or evolution as the only explanation to how we all got here? The issue is if you believe in creation you also have to believe the world was created, meaning you would have to believe in a higher power aka God. soo that forces everyone who doesnt believe in God to denounce creation and all they are left with is evolution. seems like nobody actually cares if evolution was actually possible they really just want something besides creation to believe in because they dont want to accept the possibility of a higher power.

Not believing in a creator doesnt force anything. And not believing in a creator is not the motive behind believing in evolution, thats ridiculous. Evolution itself is an undisputed fact, there is no disputing that we are evolving, the mechanism of evolution is what is the theory. And the evidence is overwhelming.

If anything people are forced to believe in a creator because they dont have a basic grasp of science.

hom36rown said:

Evolution itself is an undisputed fact,

If anything people are forced to believe in a creator because they dont have a basic grasp of science.

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Please prove it.Theory's are not fact,no matter how many times you say it.
I like science and understand it,i don't like science when it is based on what someone THINKS and not facts.No one has found half apes and half human,nor half bird and half reptile.No one has found amongst the fossile records any animal in the process of evolving.They have found new species and tried to claim they are evolving,but cannot prove it.
I like the fact that no one will read even one of the links that shows evolution is full of crap.OPH

evolution is not full of crap. if you feel this way you really oughta be able to back it up yourself, instead of just posting links and letting other people do the work. i've read many anti-evolution articles and they all lack basic logic. please post your argument,

Its not wrong to want to see some proof of evolution soo hit me with it, but there are no half monkey half humans or any other half evolved species soo it seems all the physical evidence mysteriously disappeared, also im curious according to evolution if we are always evolving what is the next level of evolution? what will we evolve into now?

I believe that God created everything through intelligent design. I don't believe in coincidence or it just happened by chance.

TheHighClub said:

Its not wrong to want to see some proof of evolution soo hit me with it, but there are no half monkey half humans or any other half evolved species soo it seems all the physical evidence mysteriously disappeared, also im curious according to evolution if we are always evolving what is the next level of evolution? what will we evolve into now?

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you say that like you think there should be some creature that has like a human face and hairy monkey parts. we are the links that exist between the past and the future. the world has always been changing so why shouldnt the creatures that inhabit change as well in order to survive. why couldnt we have gotten here by chance, theres no law that says things must make sense and that things must be as they are now.

hom36rown said:

...Evolution itself is an undisputed fact, there is no disputing that we are evolving, the mechanism of evolution is what is the theory. And the evidence is overwhelming.

If anything people are forced to believe in a creator because they dont have a basic grasp of science.

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using only the fossil records to support your opinion, show us one animal species which evolved, for example, shows the progression of change.

please link to a reputable website to show support.