Budds Love
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also when your plant starts budding you can cut off the bud just like topping and 2 budds will grow back. insted of having a single bud. doubling yield.
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chronic coinoisseur
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True but it will stunt your growth and will take awhile for the plants to continue budding so if you have a long flowering strain or your in a short season area etc i wouldnt do it.
Countryfarmer
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Here are some pictures of my plants as they are today. As the title of this update says, they were seeds in my hand 45 days ago. All plants have been buried up to their third node when they were transplanted.
They are some stalky things. But they certainly appear to enjoy being in the ground more than being in the pot.
They are some stalky things. But they certainly appear to enjoy being in the ground more than being in the pot.
Countryfarmer
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Yeh, I am a bit concerned about flyovers, but there are other areas of the state that get more focus than my area. I am hoping that when they get a bit larger they will better blend in with the surrounding briar patches. The area they are in is a cleared out section in the middle of a large, old-growth briar patch. Total of 18 plants, although four of them I don't know the sex on yet. So, minimum of 14 females and possibly as many as 18.
Budds Love
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id use string and open the branchs up more so more light can get to the inside of it. but its really not that bushy so you dont have too really.
Countryfarmer
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Hey guys. As you can see from the two overall pics most of my plants are doing just fine. Some actually appear to have grown 6 or more inches in a matter of days. But the one that I highlighted is wilting terribly.
It has received the same watering schedule as the rest of the plants and has the same type of soil, a mixture of native clay, miracle grow soil, peat moss, manure and mushroom compost. I checked the leaves and could see no sign of insect infestation, nor did I see any sign of mold or other disease. I decided to go ahead and treat the plant as if it were heat stressed (we have had some high temps here lately) and gave it about a gallon of water directly at the soil level.
I also checked the remainder of the plants and while I did find one small grasshopper along with a few leaves that showed minimal signs of insect feeding, the plants as a whole are completely healthy and show every sign of growing strongly.
Can anyone give me some sort of idea what might be wrong with the plant I highlighted? Thanks in advance.
It has received the same watering schedule as the rest of the plants and has the same type of soil, a mixture of native clay, miracle grow soil, peat moss, manure and mushroom compost. I checked the leaves and could see no sign of insect infestation, nor did I see any sign of mold or other disease. I decided to go ahead and treat the plant as if it were heat stressed (we have had some high temps here lately) and gave it about a gallon of water directly at the soil level.
I also checked the remainder of the plants and while I did find one small grasshopper along with a few leaves that showed minimal signs of insect feeding, the plants as a whole are completely healthy and show every sign of growing strongly.
Can anyone give me some sort of idea what might be wrong with the plant I highlighted? Thanks in advance.
Countryfarmer
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Well, if so, then I just exacerbated the problem today when I gave it a gallon of water. And the forecast calls for rain in another two days, so this plant may be screwed.
theloadeddragon
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it does... or is there something else suffocating the roots? How compacted is that soil mixture? Clay holds water extremely well remember? You have to break it up really well to allow for proper drainage and gas exchanges. If not broken up enough, or the soil has pockets, the roots could suffocate or rot.
If its hot there..... and you have rain coming in the next few days, and you just watered it... let it go for about a week if it rains, or 3-5 days if it doesn't rain. If its been overwatered, then in that time it should start to pick up some.
marcoze
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hahahaha, what dude? what the hell are you talking about have you ever grown anything outside of fantasy land?
Dont top your plant in any way shape or form once its started flowering. You wont get 2 "budds", you will just get a smaller yield. Any topping should be done before your plant flowers.
Countryfarmer
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Thanks TLD and FDD. I appreciate you guys stopping in to tell me what you think.
TLD, the soil is pretty broken up, and when I do go to the site I take along a tool with me to keep the clay that is on the surface from forming a barrier between it and the soil that I put in the holes I dug. I'll just leave it alone and hope that it dries out and recovers. The good news is this is the only plant showing any signs of stress.
TLD, the soil is pretty broken up, and when I do go to the site I take along a tool with me to keep the clay that is on the surface from forming a barrier between it and the soil that I put in the holes I dug. I'll just leave it alone and hope that it dries out and recovers. The good news is this is the only plant showing any signs of stress.
Uncle Ben
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I didn't take the time to read the whole thread but here goes anyway - more than likely it's overwatered inducing root rot. When planting perennials in heavy clay, you should backfill with the native soil, same with annuals unless you can provide internal drainage. Never amend it or you get your own built in pot which will not drain. The roots will forever be contained in the "good" soil. An auger will "glaze" the sides and bottom of a hole, you done created a plastic pot. I always fracture my holes either with a 3 point chisel on a tractor or by hand using a pick or large flat headed screwdriver. You want to scarify/fracture the bottom and sides of the holes. You should have done a drainage test by digging a hole, pouring a gallon or so of water in it and noting how long it took to drain. Food for future thought.
You're better off both in time and materials to pot up your plants in 3 gallon pots, dig a 3" deep hole the size of the pot girth, drop the pot in the hole and tamp soil around the bottom of the pot. Roots will find the drainholes and grow into native soil. It's like recycling plant food and water. That's what I have done, see here, 2nd shot. https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/151706-uncle-bens-topping-technique-get-125.html
I stuffed the drain holes with soft foam, let the plant get a foot or so tall, and just before I dropped it into the 3" deep hole pulled the foam plugs.
Good luck,
UB
Countryfarmer
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Thanks UB. Looks as if I made some serious mistakes using the auger and not fracturing the holes. The only upside is that at least I did dig the holes wide and deep, actually larger than the only pic I posted. Each hole displaced about 5.5 cu ft of native clay, so they are roughly equivalent to a 40 gallon container. I'll just have to let the plants go without watering until I notice the beginnings of them wilting due to lack of moisture and develop a watering/feeding schedule from that point.
dumbthumb
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Hi bro, checked out your thread and found it quite interesting, especially since your in an area I probably know well, I grew up in that neck of the woods. As well as I'm thinking of deserting CA and returning to family still in the SAV/Hinesville area. Been away 27 years now, went back for first visit ever last year. I will surely be making an undertaking similar to yours if I do make the move.
Your girls are looking good, hope you got your over-water situation worked out. I'll be ghosting your thread to see how it turns out.
Your girls are looking good, hope you got your over-water situation worked out. I'll be ghosting your thread to see how it turns out.
Countryfarmer
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Yeh, thankfully it didn't storm like it was supposed to do, so if the weather continues to cooperate the one stressed female should recover. All the rest are doing fine.
Uncle Ben
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Have you considered insect control? I treated mine with a soil drench of orthene (acephate) and Merit (imidacloprid). Both systemics which will control such suckers as thrips, mites, aphids, etc.
Countryfarmer
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I have been using a commercial brand insect soap spray which appears to have done an ok job. I recently ran out of it and decided to use some Sevin Dust which from past experience with my vegetables I know does an excellent job of insect control. While I am fine with using the dust during vegetative growth, I really do not want to use it all during flowering, so I think I am going to get some BT and start spraying with it.
What do you use during flowering?