Confused about Decarboxylation

barcow

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I made some coconut cannabis capsules and think that I decarbed for too long before I added it to my oil. Also I saw a graph where 30 min to a hour at 240 degrees F the decarboxylation stops converting and does not degrade. Is this true?

Source: http://www.marijuanagrowershq.com/decarboxylating-cannabis-turning-thca-into-thc/


If I heat dry ice hash at 240 degrees F for 30 minutes can it be mixed with coconut oil or does the hash have to be separate for the reaction to take place?
 

fumble

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to decarb your dry ice hash you should put in oven proof dish and seal well with foil. put in cold oven and set temp for 225. Set timer for 20 mins. When done, let cool completely. Then add your coconut oil and lecithin and seal back up with foil and cook at 220f for 40 mins. let cool completely and stir. You will prob have to repeat a time or two if using lecithin granules, for them to break up completely and melt into your coconut oil.
 

barcow

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Ok I will try 225 for 20 minutes. Just did a second batch decarbed at 295 for 5 minutes and baked in wrapped bowl at 175 for 2 40 minute cycles. Also used
2 tsp coconut oil mixed with butter,
1/8 tsp lecithin,
1/2 a cap of everclear,
10g of dry ice hash.Came out stronger than the last ones.

Can I cut the amount of coconut oil in order to up the potency or will there be not enough oil to extract the thc?

Also how long should I bake for at 175 F for 10g of hash and 2 tsp of coconut oil? A lot of sources stating the extraction mostly happens in the first 30 minutes. Is this true?
 

fumble

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i have always cooked for the same amount of time...40 mins at 220f. not sure about using less coconut oil. I would say add your coconut oil like a 1/4 tsp at a time until it is just moist and let hash break down into it. might be really thick though
 

barcow

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Ok thanks. I've been having a consistency problem with the first 2 batches where I have been taking 1 to 2 pills a hour every hour since 10 am and haven't felt too stoned yet (neither have my friends). Only a occasional buzz. Maybe i have to eat 5-8 at once? I will try cooking it at 220 for 40 minutes instead of 80 minutes and see if that helps.


Made first batch. Really thick. Making second batch out of the stuff i couldn't get.
 

fumble

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with these caps, you should only need one. if you look at the tops sticky, BadKat's CannaPharm, BadKittySmiles gives a tutorial on just how to make the caps. Very good info. Good luck hun
 

qwizoking

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The most efficient method of decarbing hash is to double boil and watch the carboxyl group (cooh) escape as co2 and h2o..when bubbles cease its done

Only way to know for sure you decarbed all and didn't go too far..the lower temp will also be more efficient degrading less
 

barcow

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Check for bubbles after i mixed it in the coconut oil solution? Because the dry ice hash doesn't bubble it just gets sticky and a little browner.

I made 4 different batches with the same dry ice hash and I noticed the less time I put on it at 220 in the oven the better it got, which might mean the dry ice hash I was using has already decarboxylated enough. It came from shake stored for at least more than a year. Some people I give it to only needed 2-3. I've noticed I have to eat 6-10 at a time mixed with coffee to feel anything.(latest batch needed only 3 to start feeling something)

Also the most recent batch I cooked for only 40 minutes on a double boiler with less coconut oil and came out with only 8 pills from 5 grams as opposed to 10-15 pills the first 3 batches. Again nothing too different in quality(not getting red eyes). Maybe if I use 20 grams of fresh shake in 2 tsp of coconut oil I'll get completely different results
 

fumble

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I usually equal tsp coconut oil to grams hash. Sometimes a bit less coconut oil for strength. I am not arguing quizoking's method for decarb, but i do much different. I follow BKS pretty closely...I use a glass pie plate. Distribute my dry ice hash evenly over bottom and seal well with foil. Put in cold oven and set temp to 225. Set timer for 20 mins. When done let cool completely. Decarb finished. Then I add m lecithin and coconut oil and seal tightly again. Set oven temp to 250f. When heated, turn down to 220 and put hash in oven for 40 mins.

With these caps barcow, you should only need 1

Quizo, maybe explain your method some?
 

barcow

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Believe me I gave away these pills and most people only needed 1. I and a couple others are a exception. For some reason baked goods hit me hard but these pills seems to give me just a clear headed feeling. I've eaten 4 batches of pills all done in different methods and nothing past a short buzz. The last thing I think i will try with this kief is to boil it in butter/coconut oil for a couple hours to see if that makes any difference. I've already tried cutting down time from 80 minutes to 30 minutes with 5-10 g with mixed results might as well try many hours on low heat. If that does not work then it must be that I gained a tolerance to the kief.

Does anyone know where I can find scientific data on how long to cook marijuana with fats for(Like a graph/chart)? Ive heard cook from 30 minutes all the way to 24 hours and I'm wondering if there is real data on it other than people's personal experience. Also does making edibles from coconut as opposed to butter have a different effect on the body because of the different saturated fats? Thanks for all the feedback.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat
 

qwizoking

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Thca stored at room temp in the dark will be fully decarbed after a few months....if you don't have hash oil, or "full melt" hash as it used o be called...it will blacken and smolder.extracts even sived should melt and bubble when lighted ....the heating is based on mobility in the liquid phase allowing gases to rise..if you have a dirty hash it won't be ableto melt

Coconut oil is absorbed a bit faster and has more fat, holds slight more
 

fumble

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Thanks Quizo :) I saw you post in BKS thread too about THC saturation in the oil. I have always wondered what the outcome would be if I made stronger butter by adding more weed to already made butter? Such an interesting plant we have here
 

qwizoking

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Skunkpharm is a wonderful site and should be where any concentrate maker starts off...that particular link though is a couple years old..it is constantly being updated mainly with lots of info in the comments at the bottom. But occasionally there are some additions..I've been watching skunk since its opening
He says 50% max
 
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