Compliant or Not, DEA will bust you

This is what it has come to, legal gardens within state parameters are being taken down. No one is safe from this.....

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111015/NEWS/110150315

OMG, that's all im gonna say...

Jayy's

federal fucking 3 ring circus.

well its starts here. its almost never going to end cali OR who next washington? NJ ILL MICH? hide your shit people were going into war.

This makes me fucking sick.

I know Federal Law > State Law but the Constitution > Federal law...

The constitution allows for state sovereignty...they really shouldn't be able to do this. I hope they're only going after the businesses and people only concerned about profit and the black market.

keep hopin-

Murfy said:

keep hopin-

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I will.

They can't just shut down EVERYTHING. I know the MMJ system is abused to an extent (ESPECIALLY in Cali) but it really is a great medicine...I'd probably be without most of my intestines by now if it weren't for MMJ

If they shut down everything people will go fucking nuts. They can't just allow states to pass their own laws and then revoke them. They'd have to change the constitution.

like i said-

hope. already much is contrary to the constitution.

I wouldn't be too worried. They know they're losing, losing hard. What better way to control than to attempt to fear. I'm sorry but they've been trying to force these fears and its not working. The people will overcome this soon enough. A lot of chaos right now with MJ but rest assure with all of north america news suggests they are finally realizing they were wrong with alcohol weed is next to become legal. I know we have been thinking it will legal for good for ages now but I believe the time is close. There's a lot more people involed in the MJ industry now with a lot more money. To make it faster I wish we had a weed v for vendetta right now...

anytime you have over 100 plants, you're going to draw attention to yourself. The only way these grows get raided is because someone complains about them. There really is no need to have a garden this size, there are plenty of small time quality growers that can completely supply all the cannabis needed in the state.

Kbo true to a point but they were growing for patients legally. If its legal they have no right. They could of just went with 2 guys and asked to see papers and count the plants instead of showing up and stealing. That's theft if I ever saw it and I believe the landowner has a solid case to sue.

Xoshua said:

Kbo true to a point but they were growing for patients legally. If its legal they have no right. They could of just went with 2 guys and asked to see papers and count the plants instead of showing up and stealing. That's theft if I ever saw it and I believe the landowner has a solid case to sue.

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Na bro you're missing the point, it isn't legal federally to grow cannabis anywhere. The only way you get the feds knocking down your door, is if you attract attention to yourself. you never hear about the feds raiding someone's pad that was growing 40 plants. The land owner can't sue because the law was never written for people to grow a shitload of plants. plain and simple that big of a garden just looks bad no matter how many recs you have posted all over your spot.

BA142 said:

This makes me fucking sick.

I know Federal Law > State Law but the Constitution > Federal law...

The constitution allows for state sovereignty...they really shouldn't be able to do this. I hope they're only going after the businesses and people only concerned about profit and the black market.

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This is what i wish more people knew. The feds have no authority over state law. The constitution got bent long ago when we started ammending the shit out of it. But you're right the constitution says states are to govern themselves.

kbo ca said:

Na bro you're missing the point, it isn't legal federally to grow cannabis anywhere. The only way you get the feds knocking down your door, is if you attract attention to yourself. you never hear about the feds raiding someone's pad that was growing 40 plants. The land owner can't sue because the law was never written for people to grow a shitload of plants. plain and simple that big of a garden just looks bad no matter how many recs you have posted all over your spot.

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I'm sorry to correct you, but you are wrong. In my case, I had 35 plants, and I am allowed 48 by our local law. The NTF swat pigs raided my home, and stole everything I had. I have heard of many personal growers with fewer plants than that being raided by these same pigs. There are 1 or 2 DEA shits with them, so they do whatever they want.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's a sign of the times.
The feds are worrying about losing their WAR on marijuana.
Plus, there's an election coming up. Maybe the feds saw the same poll results that I saw.
A national news channel reported that for the first time ever 50% of Americans approve of legalizing marijuana.
Medical use didn't come up, they can sell it in bars just like alcohol.
Our day will come, very soon.
Keepin it Green !

kbo ca said:

Na bro you're missing the point, it isn't legal federally to grow cannabis anywhere. The only way you get the feds knocking down your door, is if you attract attention to yourself. you never hear about the feds raiding someone's pad that was growing 40 plants. The land owner can't sue because the law was never written for people to grow a shitload of plants. plain and simple that big of a garden just looks bad no matter how many recs you have posted all over your spot.

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This guy got taken down over 17 plants!! http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111021/NEWS/110210327

If you're allowed 6 plants per patient registered (for example only), then it shouldn't matter whether you had 6 plants or 6000. You are operating legally. It's a catch 22. What I don't understand is how can there be a seizure of property (plants) when no charges have been filed? If no charges are filed, there has been no crime committed to warrant it. If a crime was committed, why then was the property owner not arrested?

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This guy got taken down over 17 plants!! http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111021/NEWS/110210327

If you're allowed 6 plants per patient registered (for example only), then it shouldn't matter whether you had 6 plants or 6000. You are operating legally. It's a catch 22. What I don't understand is how can there be a seizure of property (plants) when no charges have been filed? If no charges are filed, there has been no crime committed to warrant it. If a crime was committed, why then was the property owner not arrested?

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read that article, dude had 198 plants. He attracted attention to himself. And roll it up, sorry to hear about the raid. The dea didn't just know you had a grow going, they found out somehow, somebody dropped the dime on you. To the feds any cannabis in any amount in any form is illegal. I'm just surprised they put up the effort to roll on your 35. They never cease to amaze me

DUH!! My bad!! But still, if he was legal on the state level, and no charges were brought by the Feds, by what right did they take ANY amount of plants? Following that logic, they could theoretically come in and sieze your home without charging you with anything.

Jack Harer said:

DUH!! My bad!! But still, if he was legal on the state level, and no charges were brought by the Feds, by what right did they take ANY amount of plants? Following that logic, they could theoretically come in and sieze your home without charging you with anything.

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yeah bud they can bone you without reason. So if you have a huge garden in your backyard, if the perimeter of your home wreaks of dank, If you show all of your buddies your grow room, If you're connected with a shady collective, you're at risk for boneage.

BA142 said:

I will.

They can't just shut down EVERYTHING. I know the MMJ system is abused to an extent (ESPECIALLY in Cali) but it really is a great medicine...I'd probably be without most of my intestines by now if it weren't for MMJ

If they shut down everything people will go fucking nuts. They can't just allow states to pass their own laws and then revoke them. They'd have to change the constitution.

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What actually is happening is that the medical MJ community is putting a hamper on their drug running businesses. You know the ones they support with the gun running down to mexico and the pot coming into the US. They are taking a cut in profits. So step up the enforcement throw a little havoc out there and VOILA we get our profits back and keep the prices high. Basic business plans.

I agree with the constitution part. The states are sovereign over most federal laws. I forgot offhand which legislation started the feds thinking that they have state law trumped but it needs to be repealed and the 14th admendment returned to its original intentions. The constitution dictates which activities that the feds are allowed to do and drug regulation is not one of them. It is a states issue. The feds can only recommend and they don't want to settle for just that role. POWER POWER and more POWER I want it give it to me. That is all they think like.