Comparing - Air and Water - Cure (w/pics)

GreenphoeniX

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Yes, I have used a vaporiser, in fact, I own one, although I prefer joints on social occasions, and bongs are really more my style.

Why do you ask?
 

dpjones

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I was just wondering cos you dont like the taste of the weed and the smell isnt good for all places so you water cure. But i thought a vaporiser does the same thing.

Weed is a very sociable thing tho so i guess ya got best of both worlds.

I gota be honest, the pics of the water cured bud look wrong. It looks like bud thats been dipped in water lol....

I understand why one would want to water cure but if it wasnt neccesary i dont think i would. Half the pleasure of smoking weed for me is the taste.
 

Proph

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I wouldn't subject my prime buds to water curing, in my opinion air curing is better.

--SS:leaf:
but have you ever tried both? From all the advantages of water curing the only negative side is losing weight and fragrance but increase potency.....

Potency > taste IMO. But people are diff.
 

SpruceZeus

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I have done side by side tests. And theres no doubt that for me, water curing is wasting weed. I love marijuana, the smell, the taste, the high. When you water cure, you're losing a big part of the marijuana experience, i did about a half OZ in water, when it was done, smoke a joint and a bowl, and then relegated the rest to my trim pile as i found it unbearable. Obviously this method has some proponents, but my advice is dont waste your time.
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I was just wondering cos you dont like the taste of the weed and the smell isnt good for all places so you water cure. But i thought a vaporiser does the same thing.

I understand why one would want to water cure but if it wasnt neccesary i dont think i would. Half the pleasure of smoking weed for me is the taste.
Heh? Vaporizers bring out the taste in weed, water-curing removes the taste completely.

Watercuring removes mass while leaving THC levels constant, making a higher THC/Volume ratio (kind of like distilling alcohol).
 

GreenphoeniX

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I was just wondering cos you dont like the taste of the weed and the smell isnt good for all places so you water cure. But i thought a vaporiser does the same thing.

Weed is a very sociable thing tho so i guess ya got best of both worlds.

I gota be honest, the pics of the water cured bud look wrong. It looks like bud thats been dipped in water lol....

I understand why one would want to water cure but if it wasnt neccesary i dont think i would. Half the pleasure of smoking weed for me is the taste.
Fair enough mate, well the water cured buds technically have been dipped in water haha, but I assure your the bud in those pics is completely dry.

Also, I do like the taste of my weed, but some people don't, it's just putting the facts out there for people so they can make an informed decision or possibly find a cure for a situation they wish to solve.

Personally, the 2 primary reasons I water cure (which I don't do every harvest btw), is for quick smoke (when I got nothing left from last harvest) and/or for stealth smoke I can enjoy in a social environment where others may not be so pleased by my smoking.

I wouldn't subject my prime buds to water curing, in my opinion air curing is better.
And our opinions we are all entitled to!

I have done side by side tests. And theres no doubt that for me, water curing is wasting weed. I love marijuana, the smell, the taste, the high. When you water cure, you're losing a big part of the marijuana experience, i did about a half OZ in water, when it was done, smoke a joint and a bowl, and then relegated the rest to my trim pile as i found it unbearable. Obviously this method has some proponents, but my advice is dont waste your time.
I would never call trying something new a waste of time... As stated above, our opinions we are entitled to, it's what makes us a tiny bit less like sheep.

Heh? Vaporizers bring out the taste in weed, water-curing removes the taste completely.

Watercuring removes mass while leaving THC levels constant, making a higher THC/Volume ratio (kind of like distilling alcohol).
Indeed, quite like distilling alcohol, or like reducing shroom tea, or reducing something else that is reduced, for those chefs out there lol

There are always people who resist change and stick to the basics. It's normal. I can't wait to try this.
Exactly... And besides, I'm not saying this is a compulsory thing to do lol... But remember, some people are far more concerned with getting high, than taste, smell or bag appeal.

Cheers for checking out the thread and dropping in your opinions guys and gals!
 

dpjones

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Thats fair enough dude everyone has different tastes. I will have to try it with some of my next harvest.

I do wonder tho what it is that is being taken by the water. Why it looks different etc.

And ye i did know it had been dipped in water was a failed attempt at a joke :D
 

GreenphoeniX

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Sweet man.

The water has a leaching effect on chlorophyll etc. ... For example; when you leave grass clippings in the rain/water the water turns green and smelly, because the water is leaching out the chlorophyll and some other stuff (which I couldn't name for you myself lol) ... Unfortunately for some, it turns out that that chlorophyll etc. seems to play a sizable part in determining the taste and smell of individual herb specimens.
 

CAkushsmoke

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rep+ for ya phoenix...i hate when people say things like "autoflowering seeds r a waste or less potent than normal seeds"....DO A THREAD LIKE THIS...THEN ILL BELIEVE IT...SIDE BY SIDE, SAME NUTES, SAME ROOM ETC. idk lol im high but people do need to make more threads like this one...led vs 1000 watt system for example ya know?...well im up GREAT THREAD and PICS phoenix much luv and REP..happy growing bros :joint:
 

GreenphoeniX

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Cheers!

I'd actually really like to see one of those 90 Watt LED UFO's that is sposed to be equal to a 600W HPS ... I just don't want to spend that kind of money if it ends up shit.
Would be interesting though, and I do wonder what 'equal' means exactly lol
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
LEDs for the moment are a bullshit product IMO. Give them a few years, growing LEDs are rather new to the mainstream market.
 

GreenphoeniX

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LEDs for the moment are a bullshit product IMO. Give them a few years, growing LEDs are rather new to the mainstream market.
I share the same opinion, however I often wonder bout it when I see; 90W LED equivalent of a 600W HPS! advertised in High Times lol, I still, however, cannot bring myself to believe that that is completely true.
I just can't see an LED getting the light penetration through the canopy like a HID... Even though a semi-lollipop, I still like to think plenty of light is getting anywhere it needs to below the canopy.
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I'm sure the the way the light looks is equivalent ot a HPS setup.. but it produces no lumens. That's your catch.
 

mrdlouisd

Active Member
Tried it out, and I'll admit I like it for a few reasons. The particular strain I grew out wasn't the tastiest. Id made Bhang with a prior grow and it ruined the taste for me. I still can't pin down the taste, it's pleasant but not overpowering. I enjoy friends, and family coming over and not knowing I have the good stuff out haha. So my stash stays much fuller. I don't mind losing mass to potency. I smoke quite a bit, and this makes it a bit easier to get where I like to be. Had a friend try water, and air cured herb on different days. He preferred the water cured. Who want's to have a lot of fluff to get threw to get a good stone. Also seems to keep the resin in my pipe down. Real clean burning.

Side note, the water smells horrid. I noticed that an oil would come off the buds when put into new water, so I would dunk the buds a few times, change water and dunk until no more oil popped up. Then let them soak. I'll admit I was a bit nervous when I seen how small my main cola got, but upon smoking it, boy oh boy I'm pleasantly medicated. I think the high is much clearer, I like a clean uppity high. The air cured buds did the job, but the water cured buds seem to get the job done better. So perhaps you lose a little CBD's, I'm not looking for that effect, and treat it as a side effect. So anything to attain that I'm all the more for. I view herb as medicne, so monitary gain ins't a factor. So no worries with bag appeal, or loss of weight. Not in it for all that. Thanks for sharing. +rep
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Tried it out, and I'll admit I like it for a few reasons. The particular strain I grew out wasn't the tastiest. Id made Bhang with a prior grow and it ruined the taste for me. I still can't pin down the taste, it's pleasant but not overpowering. I enjoy friends, and family coming over and not knowing I have the good stuff out haha. So my stash stays much fuller. I don't mind losing mass to potency. I smoke quite a bit, and this makes it a bit easier to get where I like to be. Had a friend try water, and air cured herb on different days. He preferred the water cured. Who want's to have a lot of fluff to get threw to get a good stone. Also seems to keep the resin in my pipe down. Real clean burning.

Side note, the water smells horrid. I noticed that an oil would come off the buds when put into new water, so I would dunk the buds a few times, change water and dunk until no more oil popped up. Then let them soak. I'll admit I was a bit nervous when I seen how small my main cola got, but upon smoking it, boy oh boy I'm pleasantly medicated. I think the high is much clearer, I like a clean uppity high. The air cured buds did the job, but the water cured buds seem to get the job done better. So perhaps you lose a little CBD's, I'm not looking for that effect, and treat it as a side effect. So anything to attain that I'm all the more for. I view herb as medicne, so monitary gain ins't a factor. So no worries with bag appeal, or loss of weight. Not in it for all that. Thanks for sharing. +rep
This is one of the better posts by a stranger. Like honestly, most of your shit is dead on with what my friend said.
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
all right, here it is.. I am laying it down lol.

Watercured weed you can throw in a blunt and walk in front of pigs all day and no one will know.

Need I say more?
 

mrdlouisd

Active Member
all right, here it is.. I am laying it down lol.

Watercured weed you can throw in a blunt and walk in front of pigs all day and no one will know.

Need I say more?
Ha, helps me deal with the Va on the phone. Nothing like talking on the phone half the day still asking yourself the same question, bongsmilie.

:eyesmoke: How I like to talk to em. Seems if I medicate enough I forget the question and move on haha.
 

KifBox

Active Member
OK,

I water cured about 1/2 a mason jar because I had beautifully dank buds. It is AK-47 and it simply smells absolutely dank and everything I read about water cure says it robs the taste.

So I only water cured a small amount. Big mistake.

I have read on the internets some accounts of a 3-day cure. I cannot find the link but he tried it all between 3 and 9 days and said that 3 left the flavor and funk.

I did mine for 6 days. Just like green phoenix's pictorial how to. +1 rep.

As for this dude (much respect for a VERY good post +1 rep mrdlouisd).

...Side note, the water smells horrid.
This is another common complaint. Mine smelled like fucking rosewater, I shit you not. Very sweet, good dank aromatic. I would've drank mine if I thought it would've imparted some benefit.

... Also seems to keep the resin in my pipe down. Real clean burning....
This is another common thread in all the water cure stories, mine included. I don't even break the buds up, just stuff a whole bud in the bowl and it vaporizes super quick and even. Low residue for sure.

...I enjoy friends, and family coming over and not knowing I have the good stuff out haha...
This is another common result, however again with the rosewater smell of the soak water, the end result buds of mine have a DEFINITE FUNK to them. They will not clear a room out, but open the jar and take a whiff and there is A SUPER NOTICABLE FUNK to the end result. However this can be dealt with more easy. Because you can cure them in mason jars, you won't have the cut funk to deal with while curing, therefore easily doing this inside (in a closet, no one could know).

So bottom line, thank you green phoenix and mrdlouisd +1 reps to both. If there is no super difference between the stone, then I will be water curing for sure, because you can't screw it up and you can control it sometimes better than you can a normal dry and cure (like in the summer).

Peace
 
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