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Solar Flowered

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lol.. That will be my last rant about nutrient burn. I think this video could have been more entertaining haha. I don't think I will be talking about nutrient burn for a loooong time.

In conclusion to the nutrient burn issue.. I am VERY grateful that my plants don't have nutrient burn.

Thanks for the feedback wiethe20.
 
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BobCajun

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Those buds will be extra potent from getting longer hours of light. I did that before too. They got very resinous. About the nute burn, maybe it wasn't even nute burn but something else. HPS burn, a fungus, overwatering, could have been lots of things. Not that easy to nute burn plants unless you go crazy with it.
 

Solar Flowered

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Those buds will be extra potent from getting longer hours of light. I did that before too. They got very resinous. About the nute burn, maybe it wasn't even nute burn but something else. HPS burn, a fungus, overwatering, could have been lots of things. Not that easy to nute burn plants unless you go crazy with it.
It will be interesting to try the flower from my vegetative og kush for sure.. but I know it won't be flushed.. :/

Murphy's law definitely does apply with with the animal crackers plant that Medicropper is trying to rebound at the moment. It's hard to get the full picture from another garden just by watching videos on YouTube.

Medicropper mentioned that he hit his vegging plants with 1.5 ec Kind Nutrients and it burned the crap out of his plants. It has been about 2 months ago, but you can see the damage throughout all three of his main gardens. Every strain can be sourced again except for the animal crackers strain.. and he doesn't know anyone else with that particular cookie strain in Washington. I have faith though.. with a little TLC he should get that plant back up and running. It was recently transplanted.. so it will be about a week to see if he will keep this strain. Keeps me looking for to the update in the vegetative room.. that's for sure! 8)
 

wiethe20

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I live in goddamm ohio and hear everything about cookies, animal cooks etc...I get there all not the same cut or pheno he'd want but imo it's not going to be hard what so ever
 

Solar Flowered

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I live in goddamm ohio and hear everything about cookies, animal cooks etc...I get there all not the same cut or pheno he'd want but imo it's not going to be hard what so ever
I hope Medicropper has an easier times rebounding the animal cookies. I grew 2 cookie strains and failed with each phenotype. First pheno I grew was a Candyland (grand daddy purple x bay girl scout cookies) and bay grown girl scout cookies. Both strains were more sensitive to lower temps, feeding mistakes, and general neglect.. I ended up getting rid of both of the strains due to them not being as tough as I was hoping.. The strongest stains resistant to stress I have grown so far is Sour Diesel and OG Kush hands down.:leaf:
 

BobCajun

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It will be interesting to try the flower from my vegetative og kush for sure.. but I know it won't be flushed.. :/

Murphy's law definitely does apply with with the animal crackers plant that Medicropper is trying to rebound at the moment. It's hard to get the full picture from another garden just by watching videos on YouTube.

Medicropper mentioned that he hit his vegging plants with 1.5 ec Kind Nutrients and it burned the crap out of his plants. It has been about 2 months ago, but you can see the damage throughout all three of his main gardens. Every strain can be sourced again except for the animal crackers strain.. and he doesn't know anyone else with that particular cookie strain in Washington. I have faith though.. with a little TLC he should get that plant back up and running. It was recently transplanted.. so it will be about a week to see if he will keep this strain. Keeps me looking for to the update in the vegetative room.. that's for sure! 8)
Well I found an ec to ppm conversion chart and 1.5 ec converts to somewhere between 750 and 1050 ppm depending on which company's meters you're using. I use more that 1050 ppm all the time and no burn whatsoever. Must be crap nutes or he's adding other shit besides the nutes or something. Maybe it has high phosphorus levels, meaning phosphoric acid. Maybe he used one of those "bloom" nutes that have overly high phosphorus levels.You don't even need extra phosphorus for flowering. Why would you? The plants will just take what they need, regardless of the ratios. Pretty unlikely the solution is going to run out of phosphorus before you replace it. It would be good to use nutrients without any ammonium nitrogen though, which is kind of hard to find with commercial Cannabis grow nutes. You would want pure nitrate nitrogen in flowering. The ammonium is probably what makes some Cannabis harsh too. I doubt you would need to flush if you used no ammonium and no extra high phosphorus levels in flowering.

Look at the ec/ppm levels in this chart that are used for vegetables. Some are over 2000 ppm. You could probably go to 3000 before you'd see problems. In fact, the way to get more dry weight in hydro plants after they've reached a large enough size from lower levels is to raise the ec/ppm level, which then causes the plants to take in less water so they become less lush and more solid. It's like when plants are grown in soil and you hold back water. To do the same in hydro you have to raise the ppm. Low ppm causes weak lush growth which is mostly water.
 
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Solar Flowered

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Interesting! Yeah, Medicropper didn't have an EC meter.. but he came up with that number after the plants were already burned. Personally, I don't use an EC meter.. and the only time burned my plants is when I watered 100% strength vegetative nutrients for at least 3-5 consecutive waterings. When I first started to notice the slowed growth in 2010.. I kept on hitting the plants with 100% strength nutes. That ended up with the ppm going off the scales and the plants went into shock.

A couple other factors that I think may of lead into the animal crackers being in the hotseat for Medicropper is the temperature and lights. When he first moved his plants into the grow warehouse.. he set them all under Gavita's before hitting them with the Kind nutrients. Personally, I think most of the plant foliage damage from Medicroper's foliage were a combination of low temperature spikes, vast changes in the spectrum of vegetative grow light, and perhaps a pH imbalance issue as well.

Thank God I don't have any of these issues. Thanks BobCajun for dropping that knowledge!! Sending out prayers for Medicropper making a solid recovery plan for the animal crackers strain.
 

BobCajun

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Interesting! Yeah, Medicropper didn't have an EC meter.. but he came up with that number after the plants were already burned. Personally, I don't use an EC meter.. and the only time burned my plants is when I watered 100% strength vegetative nutrients for at least 3-5 consecutive waterings. When I first started to notice the slowed growth in 2010.. I kept on hitting the plants with 100% strength nutes. That ended up with the ppm going off the scales and the plants went into shock.

A couple other factors that I think may of lead into the animal crackers being in the hotseat for Medicropper is the temperature and lights. When he first moved his plants into the grow warehouse.. he set them all under Gavita's before hitting them with the Kind nutrients. Personally, I think most of the plant foliage damage from Medicroper's foliage were a combination of low temperature spikes, vast changes in the spectrum of vegetative grow light, and perhaps a pH imbalance issue as well.

Thank God I don't have any of these issues. Thanks BobCajun for dropping that knowledge!! Sending out prayers for Medicropper making a solid recovery plan for the animal crackers strain.
I can see how you could nute burn them in pots if you keep adding nute solution without allowing significant runoff and throwing it away. Obviously it would just build up.
 
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