colloidal silver and making fem seeds

i have made crosses and make clones but want to produce fem seeds of some clone only strains in socal. i have grown herm seeds before with 100% success i plan to use colloidal silver as opposed to light stress or gibberelic acid. i am only going to treat a few branches so light stress is not the way i want to go. colloidal silver is safest but i am willing to consider giberellic acid although it causes stretchcing and is toxic. i would like input from anyone who makes fem seeds with either of these methods thanks.

no one out there makes fem seeds?

do not use gibb acid. U dont want to eventually smoke that shit

use light stress

best way is the silver i believe thats how the breeders do it here is a link
https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/78710-how-make-colloidal-silver-make.html

i try to avoid fem seeds because i dont like stressed plants
keep up the good work man

thanks for everyones input. i have looked online and you can purchase very high ppm colloidal silver. if i can find a supplement store locally with a high concentration i will just use that if not i will make some with electricity. before i was trying to copy genetics by making a cross and then crossing it back again and again to the desirable strain to get seeds close to the original that method takes years and is time consuming so i think the silver is the way to go and in no way toxic to humans at reasonable levels. i may start drinking some myself it kills many species of microrganisms any other thoughts welcome

There is a difference between health store colloidal silver, and the more 'ionic silver solution' we desire.. Colloidal silver for consumption is a 'colloid' mainly composed of small clusters of neutral elemental silver (~15 atom clusters is common), while we want a 'solution' with more Ag+ (aq)..
If you were to consume ionic silver it would just form a bunch of silver chloride in your stomach..
Consider the chemical treatments like silver nitrate, and silver thiosulfate etc.. Those agents have already proven their effectiveness at impeding the ethylene pathways in the plant to sufficiently induce intersex flowers, but they would not possess any elemental silver in solution, or colloid form at all, only Ag+ ions, and alot of impurities from the cations and other compounds formed in solution.. Thats why its my belief that the presence of sufficient Ag+ ions in solution (like electrolysis provides) is the important thing, and that impurities are usually unimportant..

i would make it yourself i have read up on the process a bit and it seems easy enough. just have to get ppm's high enough so a good ppm meter would be a must

Actually you can't use the number from a ppm meter directly.. They are essentially very sensitive AC ohm-meters that measure the resistance and convert that to ppm based on the conductivity of likely ions in the solution.. If Ag+ conducts differently than the more common ions its calibrated for then the ppm would be drastically off.. It may even be drastically off regarding fertilizer ions too, but as long as its consitently off it doesn't really matter since we can use the EC (a more proper term than ppm) to determine how it needs to be adjusted..
Actually, different brands of ppm meters use different scales to calculate a ppm number.. American and European standards are slightly different..
So you can't really guage EC against ppm unless you can ask somebody who has produced it successfully what kind of EC/ppm reading they obtained.. Labs and experiements you find on the net will be citing true molar (particle count) based ppm, not EC derived..

thanks for the input. does anyone know what the minimum ppm i will need for spraying?

I looked into that before, and discussed it here..
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/118411-gibberellic-acid-hermies.html#post1447547

i think i will use the silver as opposed to ga it looks like 500 to 1000 ppm should do im debating making some or purchasing some i assume if the micron size is small enough it should pass into any living thing. i am a bit confused about the different silver solutions and which is best. i would think any silver solution with small particles and proper concentration would get the desired result. i have seen up to 10000 ppm for sale im no biologist though so im still doing research any input welcome

elemental silver is not what you want.. You want ionic silver.. Easiest way to get it would be to make it yourself via electrolysis.. There is a giant difference between an atom and an ion..
You could line up more than 4000 ag+ ions within a single micron..

ok so if the silver is not ionized for plants or people it is like swallowing a silver coin not very absorbable like eating small metal particles. it looks like i will have to make my own i looked on line and ionized silver can be bought but it is expensive if i can find some ionized on the net of the proper concentration ill do that but it looks like i will be making it. thanks for the fast response. its funny it takes years for strains to become available in seed some people actually believe og kush wont make seeds ive already grown fem seeds of this strain and want to make many of them. im going to look around for ionized silver.

To make a solution that would 'probably' work fine, all you'd feed is some food-safe solder, a dc power source, a tupperware container and some wire/clips.. If you can get anything that is purer silver than solder (but not merely plated) even better..

now im more confused the different makers of ionis silver and colloidial silver argue which is best for humans with regards to processing by acids in the stomach and the molecular change that takes place and which is better used by mammals. this is dirrected at mammals of course so may have no basis for use on plants i need more info. as far as cost making it is the way to go im in the wrong business this stuff sells for a price

ill just buy some 1 oz coins of the highest purity that should work or a small silver bar there relatively cheap

i have a solution of 500ppm c.silver im going to do a test run on a very stable black domina clone as the larry og kush strain that i really want to make feminized seeds of is too far into flower. iwas in the process of making my own silver but ran across a 500ppm product for 12 dollars if this c.silver fails i will make my own but am on a strict budget so i hope this store bought product works well enough. i will report back when succesfull.

Is it ionic, or is it actually 'colloidal silver' like from a health supplier? You want the ionic stuff.. Actual colloidal silver contains primarily micro-clusters of neutral silver metal which will not react as we need..
All colloidal silver will have some silver ions in it though.. Maybe its enough even if thats what you have..
Conversely, ionic silver isn't exactly for human consumption.. The Ag+ ions will react with your stomach acid and precipitate as silver chloride..

yeah i was concerned with what form the silver was in as we discussed before i just happened upon the 500ppm product for 12 bucks so i grabbed it. im not working now so i sadly cant afford the batteries silver wire and clips at this time and yes this product is colloidal silver not ionized it states that particle size is 1 to 2 microns i know ionized is preffered but im going to try this and see what happens if this fails ill get some money together and make some ionized solution hopefully it will work we will see. im going to spray a couple branches on a black domina and a purple bubba kush i guess at 3 or 4 day intervals any advice welcome.