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If you use the blocks meant for reptile bedding, or some such,
then be sure to rinse it well. I think that it has salts on it that
will harm your plants. You want to charge it with Cal Mag,
as indicated, afterwards.

I forgot this and had to flush a plant. It survived. They like Coir really. :0)

Good luck,

JD

tightpockt said:

Cocotek is pretty good. There's a bunch out there, just search coco choir on amazon and read the reviews. I still rinse mine pretty thoroughly no matter how much they say they do it on the package.

Perlite isn't necessary but it doesn't hurt either..one of the benefits of coco is that you can't really over water. I would recommend fabric pots though.

Aqua flakes makes a line specifically for coco, has more calmag in it. It's good shit. Super simple and grows fat buds
I've also used Jacks classic which is much cheaper and does a real good job. You just have to supplement with calmag or epsom salts.

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Thanks for the advice! I think I am going to go with cocotek from GenHydro. I'll mix it with perlite. I'm not sure how much I want yet. Thinking 25-50%. The smart pots sound good, considering my space I'm going to go with 3 gallons. Aqua flakes sounds good but is there an organic liquid nutrient good for coco?

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Great Brettain said:

Thanks for the advice! I think I am going to go with cocotek from GenHydro. I'll mix it with perlite. I'm not sure how much I want yet. Thinking 25-50%. The smart pots sound good, considering my space I'm going to go with 3 gallons. Aqua flakes sounds good but is there an organic liquid nutrient good for coco?

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I have used mother earth tea as a base a few times and it works, just not as good as the 1, 2, 3 part synthetics (to me anyway).

I have never tested perlite and coco but I have tested coco and hydroton pebbles vs just straight up coco. The plants mixed with the pebbles did not grow as well as the 100% coco mix. I will never mix again, the ratio always jacked with my feedings. The 2 mediums seemed to throw each other off and cause nothing but headache. I stay strictly 100% coco now (sans wool cube).

what do u guys think of amending coco w/ gypsum, dolomite lime, and maybe kelp, and crab meal?(just cause I have it around) ill be watering in 3 gal smart pots with dyna gro foliage pro and protect all the way through.

Javadog said:

If you use the blocks meant for reptile bedding, or some such,
then be sure to rinse it well. I think that it has salts on it that
will harm your plants. You want to charge it with Cal Mag,
as indicated, afterwards.

I forgot this and had to flush a plant. It survived. They like Coir really. :0)

Good luck,

JD

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im still having issues with my 1st 2 coco plants. the bigger 1 is still getting tiny rust spots in random places but my lil 1 is that bad im considering pullin her.. upto 15ml per gal of calmag dunno if gettin some epsom salts will help will post pic shortly

Javadog said:

If you use the blocks meant for reptile bedding, or some such,
then be sure to rinse it well. I think that it has salts on it that
will harm your plants. You want to charge it with Cal Mag,
as indicated, afterwards.

I forgot this and had to flush a plant. It survived. They like Coir really. :0)

Good luck,

JD

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im still having issues with my 1st 2 coco plants. the bigger 1 is still getting tiny rust spots in random places but my lil 1 is that bad im considering pullin her.. upto 15ml per gal of calmag dunno if gettin some epsom salts will help now

shadyslater said:

im still having issues with my 1st 2 coco plants. the bigger 1 is still getting tiny rust spots in random places but my lil 1 is that bad im considering pullin her.. upto 15ml per gal of calmag dunno if gettin some epsom salts will help now

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Add more Cal Mag. I like at least 100-150ppm of CalMag

I tried a foliar feed of epsom salts, but this did not seem
to help the problem.

I am going to add more cal-mag and top dress with EWC.

JD

you have a lockout I think. I would flush and make sure you get healthy runoff....adding magnesium can lock out calcium.

i know the next coco purchase will be pre-treated stuff lol

shadyslater said:

i know the next coco purchase will be pre-treated stuff lol

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I agree! :0)

JD

I'm a long time hydro grower (even actual edible veggies & shit)....but WOW, lovin coco
...rot had me almost giving up on this hobby; xfered my plants over to coco, followed the advise here, and life couldn't be easier....

I've noticed the growth is only slightly slower, but the simplicity is 3X easier: no pH to f*ck with, no worry about nutes in the res, no rot, no temp issues, none of that crap

Ya i use ans stand by coco doing my butes good

greenfingered, red eyed

I used to use the canna coco in the bag and love the shit, but recently I switched to the brick and I got to say I'm really liking this to. I use %100 coco and I don't "charge" my coco (not telling anyone else they shouldn't) just do a good flush wit tap water tell the brown stuff runs clear then hit it with some nutrients and my plants seem to love it. Been using coco for a while now and can't imagine using nothing else

ace720 said:

I used to use the canna coco in the bag and love the shit, but recently I switched to the brick and I got to say I'm really liking this to. I use %100 coco and I don't "charge" my coco (not telling anyone else they shouldn't) just do a good flush wit tap water tell the brown stuff runs clear then hit it with some nutrients and my plants seem to love it. Been using coco for a while now and can't imagine using nothing else

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I use the bricks too but i soak mine in a ph'd calmag solution overnight then rinse it through with plain water and its ready to use. Add clone and nutes and off you go

In what order would you put these nutes in you water to mix
Rhizotonick, cal max, canna A and B, and over drive

nas2007 said:

In what order would you put these nutes in you water to mix
Rhizotonick, cal max, canna A and B, and over drive

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Cal, a, b, rhizo, overdrive in that order

ace720 said:

I used to use the canna coco in the bag and love the shit, but recently I switched to the brick and I got to say I'm really liking this to. I use %100 coco and I don't "charge" my coco (not telling anyone else they shouldn't) just do a good flush wit tap water tell the brown stuff runs clear then hit it with some nutrients and my plants seem to love it. Been using coco for a while now and can't imagine using nothing else

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yeah, if you are otherwise uninformed like I was, then read all the sh+t posted by ignoramuses on the net, you tend to get a lil paranoid .....

I started to buy the pre-made stuff at a slight premium $$$ but went ahead and got the cheaper GH 5Kg brick (CocoTek? I dunno) ...did a few plants in str8 coco and a few others in various ratio mixes with perlite....

just my "new-at-this" small-sample-sized- opinion but:
a) I don't think you gotta do much with the more well known commercial brands of coco beyond a fresh water flush or maybe a pre-soak in Cal-mag (I did some of both, noticed no lock-out or issues in either "test subjects")

b) I'm pretty sure now mixing in perlite isn't a absolute mandate, BUT since I got my plants on automatic drippers, it appears those with a 70/30 coco-perlite mix are 100% immune to over watering wilt (obviously)...the trade-off being: the perlite mix plants have more waste/runoff (again; obviously)

c) I'm experimenting to see if Coco specific nutes even matter: looks like it does (tentatively speaking)

i have never spent the extra money on loose coco only because i am cheap. Don't know if it is worth the extra $$ but i usually either use cocotek or cocogro and they both produce bud that is fine for myself and never ceases to get a compliment when i share.

oh and i usually get my coco put some in a smart pot still compressed(whichever size i am using) dump some perlite then i dunk it in a 5 gallon bucket i fill with phd water mash it around for a bit drain it squeeze it transplant and water with nutrients....works for me

maybe one day i will run a side by side with a few plants with each and see if the difference if any justifies the cost.

I use the CocoTek bricks and don't rinse. Just hydrate with nutrient solution and add 25% perlite. Someone was asking about organic coco, General Organics works great for this although some don't consider it true organics (particularly the camg+). FYI -- I've done with and without perlite and the perlite plants seemed to have a slight edge.