bubbels
Member
i gave them water and nutes yesterday and them perked up nicely, so i need to water them every scond day or so to keep them healthy. will post some pics if they turning bad again, so thanks for the advise and help.!
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littlegrower2004
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no problem! the more water they get the more nutes they uptake and the healthier they are! keep em green buddy!
My420
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I am using cocoa with a 50/50 Coarse perlite mix. Here are a couple pics of the grow. Rep if you like it. Ask me questions if you want any advice. I love to help people grow better.
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/429274-experimental-grow-pics-please-comment.html#post5680747
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/429274-experimental-grow-pics-please-comment.html#post5680747
littlegrower2004
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looking good my420! why do you add the perlite? it seems a lot people are doing that. i personally use straight coco.
del66666
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you need the coco and perlite thread..............
My420
Active Member
Because Cocoa Coir Breaks down after several uses; doesn't drain quite as well as others. For this reason, it is often mixed with other media to improve drainage like I use perlite because it helps it drain better and can still hold I think like 5x its weight in water.
Cocoa Coir is good for: drip systems, dutch buckets and auto pots. Not as good for ebb and flow, as it can be washed away that is why you must get the super coarse perlite not the small stuff to prevent it from washing out of your drain holes on your bucket/pots if you have a flood tray like I use.
My420
Active Member
Do not think so but I also flush every week so maybe but I never noticed it..
Here are some videos i just put up + rep if you like it.
https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog10746-more-grow-pics-videos.html
littlegrower2004
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well i dont re use my coco so i dont ever experience a problem with it breaking down as you say. it definetely drains very well and better than soil for sure IMO. i dont think it needs any extra medium added to it. for ebb and flow you just need to use the right pots such as smart pots which can absorb the water fine but wont allow the coco to seep threw.
My420
Active Member
Also on top of that helps keep it aerated better. sorry forgot that point !
littlegrower2004
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looking real good scroggsy! that big cola will be nice and fat here in a couple weeks!
sampson4u
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These plants are about 3 weeks into flower under a 600 watt air cooled hps about 24" above plants. Room temp stays around 72. Humidity around 40. There being grown in 100% canna coco with canna nutes. I just did a flush with no change in the plants. PH is at 5.8 and at 700ppm of nutes. Canna A and B 5ml each pk14 at 3ml gal and calmag at 3ml gal. Any ideas about the yellowing would be helpful.
These plants are about 3 weeks into flower under a 600 watt air cooled hps about 24" above plants. Room temp stays around 72. Humidity around 40. There being grown in 100% canna coco with canna nutes. I just did a flush with no change in the plants. PH is at 5.8 and at 700ppm of nutes. Canna A and B 5ml each pk14 at 3ml gal and calmag at 3ml gal. Any ideas about the yellowing would be helpful.
rfun
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What strains you got going there? Cause I had the exact same problem with a G-13 Haze(Barneys Farm Seeds)! It just never grew right. Had the exact same set up as you, all Canna products, 100% Coco and all but they always looked pale and at about 6 weeks into flowering the leaves started turning yellow and dieing. Keep in mind this is a 12 week strain so 6 weks is way to early for the leaves to die off. Never figured it out, I just decided not to grow that strain anymore. Might have been genetics. I will definetly be watching for comments for you, cause I'd still like to know what it was. And BTW I grew that strain in Coco and in Hydroton on an Ebb and Flow table and got the same result. Thats what makes me think I just got stuck with some bad genetics.
PUKKA BUD
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Sound like you need to raise your A&B mate i was at like 12ml/4l at that stage, when i started on the PK13/14 at 4ml/4L i lowered the a&b to 8ml/4L but it soon whent back up to 10ml, i was addin cal-mag at 2ml/4L + cannazm and boost..............try addin more a&b till your upto around 900ppm at 1st then if there doin ok even higher but dont go over 1200........i dont take ppms or anythin so i could be wrong, just the amounts you say sound low to me, im thinkin your gals are 3.8L so pretty close to my 4L amounts, they should darken up in no time just take it slow as you raise and watch for burn
Hope this helps.............good choice on the G13-haze!
Heres my Barneys G13 haze, all canna nutes in Canna coco pro........not a yellow leaf insight from start to finish what a strain!!
sampson4u
Member
Thats four plants there. Tried to scrog but they outgrew the screen. Ill flower earlier next time. The strains I have going are, white rhino(green house seeds), Lemon Skunk (green house seeds)Trainwreck(GHS) and pineapple chunk ( Barneys farm). Thank you all for the input on this. I think i will try to raise the ppms up and see what happens. Here are some picks of my setup. That G13 looks great. Congrats on the great looking lady.
lambofgod
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nas2007
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hey boys just got some canna protucts that may intrest you
CANNACURE
CANNACURE is CANNA's first product that prevents, controls plant pests and mildew! Since its introduction in the beginning of 2011 it has been praised by many growers.
100% natural pest control
CANNACURE is CANNA’s first environmental friendly plant pests controller.
CANNA Research Laboratories has developed a multi task growth stimulator that:
Physical Function
By spraying CANNACURE you ensure that a second natural skin is formed on your plants. This layer makes sure your plant gets enough nutrients and is still able to breath. The layer also makes sure that plant pests stick to it, therefore the plant pest will not touch the leaf directly and will die, because it is unable to function properly. It is very important that CANNACURE is applied thoroughly to upper and lower leaf surfaces.
CANNACURE user advice
Use CANNACURE once a week as a preventive measure to make sure plant pests can not make contact with the leaves. The pests will cease because they stick to the leaf and are unable to survive. If you have a heavy infestation, for example, the white- fly, spider mite or mealy bug, repeat spraying after 3 days and again if necessary after a further 3 days, then weekly afterwards. Even mildew will begin to appear less. CANNACURE can be used from the beginning of the growth till harvesting.
Availability of Nutrients
CANNACURE makes and keeps your plant healthy, shiny and clean, enabling optimal photosynthesis . This enables your plant to concentrate on flowering. Combining with CANNABOOST, fruits form more rapidly. The availability of nutrients is very important for achieving optimum results. CANNACURE combined with CANNABOOST, PK 13-14 and your regular CANNA feeding guarantees the best availability of all the nutrients.
Optimal resistance
Together with your other CANNA-nutrients and additives CANNACURE ensures the plant also has sufficient energy-levels available to resist any pathogens. Mixing different nutrient brands always endangers your plants health. This may result in a lack of plant energy which gives diseases a more probable chance to strike at crucial moments for your cultivation.
Better growth & protection
Environmental footprints are becoming more important each day. What do we leave the planet with after we have harvested? How do we prevent all toxic pesticides to penetrate the earth? By using CANNACURE you are not only ensured to get the job done and enabling high results, but on top of that it will not harm the environment and your own health. CANNACURE works by means of physical action. It defends your plant against pests and mildew, by providing the leaves a second natural skin, that makes it impossible for pests and mildew to function properly.
CANNACURE Directions of Use
User Intructions
The packaging is made of 100% Polyethylene (PVC and cadmium free), an easy biodegradable plastic which is also recyclable.
Calcium
The plant tissues are optimally stabilised by using CALCIUM. It stabilises the cell wall, influences growth hormones and regulates the transport of water and nutrients in the plant. In addition liquid calcium can be directly absorbed by the plant, so that the cell tissue is immediately strengthened. CALCIUM can be used as calcium fertiliser to replenish a deficiency or as a supplementary nutrient to stimulate growth.
Calcium Directions of Use
This mineral fertiliser contains 15% Ca and is chloride-free.
Calcium is an essential element for the plants; calcium is, amongst others, responsible for the structural and physiological stability of the plant tissues. It stabilises the cell wall, has an influence on the growth hormones and regulates the transport of water and nutrients in the plant.
Liquid calcium fertiliser can be immediately absorbed by the plant and directly fortifies the cell tissue.
Liquid calcium fertiliser can be mixed with other fertilisers, except when in concentrated form with fertilisers containing phosphate, citrate and sulphate.
Application
1-2 ml per 1 litre water.
Warning
A good fertiliser contains all essential elements in the correct proportions. An overdose of calcium can result in magnesium deficiency. Therefore, proceed with caution when determining the dose; an overdose could be harmful to the plant
Magnesium
Magnesium is the central atom in chlorophyll and so is essential in photosynthesis. Furthermore magnesium influences other pigments and physiological processes. This makes it an essential element in the development of the plant. MAGNESIUM can be directly absorbed by the plant and therefore the effects can be seen quite soon. It can be used as a fertiliser for magnesium deficiency and as a supplementary nutrient to stimulate the growth and bloom.
Magnesium Directions of Use
This mineral fertiliser contains 7% MgO and 14% SO3.
Phosphor is an essential element for the plants; magnesium is the central atom in chlorophyll and is therefore crucial for the photosynthesis process. Furthermore, magnesium has an influence on other pigments and on physiological processes.
Liquid Epsom salts can be immediately absorbed by the plant and produce a fast, visible effect.
Liquid Epsom salts in concentrated form cannot be mixed with fertilisers containing calcium.
Application
1-2 ml per 1 litre water.
CANNACURE
CANNACURE is CANNA's first product that prevents, controls plant pests and mildew! Since its introduction in the beginning of 2011 it has been praised by many growers.
100% natural pest control
CANNACURE is CANNA’s first environmental friendly plant pests controller.
CANNA Research Laboratories has developed a multi task growth stimulator that:
- Controls plant pests by environmental friendly physical means
- Stimulates growth as a leave nutrient
Physical Function
By spraying CANNACURE you ensure that a second natural skin is formed on your plants. This layer makes sure your plant gets enough nutrients and is still able to breath. The layer also makes sure that plant pests stick to it, therefore the plant pest will not touch the leaf directly and will die, because it is unable to function properly. It is very important that CANNACURE is applied thoroughly to upper and lower leaf surfaces.
CANNACURE user advice
Use CANNACURE once a week as a preventive measure to make sure plant pests can not make contact with the leaves. The pests will cease because they stick to the leaf and are unable to survive. If you have a heavy infestation, for example, the white- fly, spider mite or mealy bug, repeat spraying after 3 days and again if necessary after a further 3 days, then weekly afterwards. Even mildew will begin to appear less. CANNACURE can be used from the beginning of the growth till harvesting.
Availability of Nutrients
CANNACURE makes and keeps your plant healthy, shiny and clean, enabling optimal photosynthesis . This enables your plant to concentrate on flowering. Combining with CANNABOOST, fruits form more rapidly. The availability of nutrients is very important for achieving optimum results. CANNACURE combined with CANNABOOST, PK 13-14 and your regular CANNA feeding guarantees the best availability of all the nutrients.
Optimal resistance
Together with your other CANNA-nutrients and additives CANNACURE ensures the plant also has sufficient energy-levels available to resist any pathogens. Mixing different nutrient brands always endangers your plants health. This may result in a lack of plant energy which gives diseases a more probable chance to strike at crucial moments for your cultivation.
Better growth & protection
Environmental footprints are becoming more important each day. What do we leave the planet with after we have harvested? How do we prevent all toxic pesticides to penetrate the earth? By using CANNACURE you are not only ensured to get the job done and enabling high results, but on top of that it will not harm the environment and your own health. CANNACURE works by means of physical action. It defends your plant against pests and mildew, by providing the leaves a second natural skin, that makes it impossible for pests and mildew to function properly.
CANNACURE Directions of Use
User Intructions
- Dilution rate: 330 ml to 1 litre water
- Spray minimal once a week, up unti l harvest
- Apply using a fine sprayer, to maximise effectiveness
- Do not prepare the solution for more than ten days in advance
- Do not use together with products containing hydrogen peroxide (H2O2)
- Do not mix with any other product – mix only with water
- Use CANNACURE along with your nutrients or other feed
- Shake bottle well before use
- Store closed and in a dark frost-proof place
- Keep out of reach of children
The packaging is made of 100% Polyethylene (PVC and cadmium free), an easy biodegradable plastic which is also recyclable.
Calcium
The plant tissues are optimally stabilised by using CALCIUM. It stabilises the cell wall, influences growth hormones and regulates the transport of water and nutrients in the plant. In addition liquid calcium can be directly absorbed by the plant, so that the cell tissue is immediately strengthened. CALCIUM can be used as calcium fertiliser to replenish a deficiency or as a supplementary nutrient to stimulate growth.
Calcium Directions of Use
This mineral fertiliser contains 15% Ca and is chloride-free.
Calcium is an essential element for the plants; calcium is, amongst others, responsible for the structural and physiological stability of the plant tissues. It stabilises the cell wall, has an influence on the growth hormones and regulates the transport of water and nutrients in the plant.
Liquid calcium fertiliser can be immediately absorbed by the plant and directly fortifies the cell tissue.
Liquid calcium fertiliser can be mixed with other fertilisers, except when in concentrated form with fertilisers containing phosphate, citrate and sulphate.
Application
- To be applied as a calcium fertiliser, amongst others, in the case of a calcium deficiency.
- As a supplementary remedy to stimulate the growth.
1-2 ml per 1 litre water.
Warning
A good fertiliser contains all essential elements in the correct proportions. An overdose of calcium can result in magnesium deficiency. Therefore, proceed with caution when determining the dose; an overdose could be harmful to the plant
Magnesium
Magnesium is the central atom in chlorophyll and so is essential in photosynthesis. Furthermore magnesium influences other pigments and physiological processes. This makes it an essential element in the development of the plant. MAGNESIUM can be directly absorbed by the plant and therefore the effects can be seen quite soon. It can be used as a fertiliser for magnesium deficiency and as a supplementary nutrient to stimulate the growth and bloom.
Magnesium Directions of Use
This mineral fertiliser contains 7% MgO and 14% SO3.
Phosphor is an essential element for the plants; magnesium is the central atom in chlorophyll and is therefore crucial for the photosynthesis process. Furthermore, magnesium has an influence on other pigments and on physiological processes.
Liquid Epsom salts can be immediately absorbed by the plant and produce a fast, visible effect.
Liquid Epsom salts in concentrated form cannot be mixed with fertilisers containing calcium.
Application
- To be applied as a magnesium fertiliser, amongst others, in the case of a magnesium deficiency.
- As a supplementary remedy to stimulate the growth and bloom.
- Administration With the nutrient solution or by means of spraying the leaves (1ml/l).
1-2 ml per 1 litre water.
nas2007
Well-Known Member
yeah, that depends, but canna usualy give good directions of use