Co2 for clones good or bad ?

hpn0tiq420

hpn0tiq420

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I have a master kush clone and I'm wondering if I feed a tube through a hole in my humidity dome from my homemade co2 generator if it will help It grow and establish roots or will it harm it figured I better post this and get some answers before I go and kill my clone also thinkin that it can't hurt it but I want to be sure I'm not doing something wrong here's a pic
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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plants that size don't need co2 supplementation as they are just not big enough. Besides, with your home made co2 generator you have no idea how much co2 your giving your pllants and just might kill it with too high of a concentration. In think you can stop using your humidity dome by now.
 
Truth4:20

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legallyflying said:
plants that size don't need co2 supplementation as they are just not big enough. Besides, with your home made co2 generator you have no idea how much co2 your giving your pllants and just might kill it with too high of a concentration. In think you can stop using your humidity dome by now.
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I agree as far as taking the dome off, but i disagree with clones or plants that size not needing co2, They actually make and sell little co2 mat things you roll up and place inside your cutting dome. As far as i heard and i could be wrong, co2 helps cuttings root faster or higher success rate. Look into it more. But as far as regulating the co2 to them im not sure.
 
Dr. Who

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Truth4:20 said:
I agree as far as taking the dome off, but i disagree with clones or plants that size not needing co2, They actually make and sell little co2 mat things you roll up and place inside your cutting dome. As far as i heard and i could be wrong, co2 helps cuttings root faster or higher success rate. Look into it more. But as far as regulating the co2 to them im not sure.
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Sigh,,,,,NO!
Seedlings and even vegging plants get little to no advantage from Co2 enrichment! It would be a waste of your money.
Save the Co2 for bloom.....1000ppm minimum and temps at 80F to make any difference.

Doc
 
Truth4:20

Truth4:20

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Thanks for the input and im not a scientist so i dont know how but clones do root faster at least 3 to 4 days diffrence, but thats just from my last two years hands on experience
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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I don't add. Just make sure the air is turned over constantly in the clone area..
Domes are good - but they hold the fresh air out.
I see your point though!
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Never tried it, never thought of trying it but if you google it there are a few (didnt spend much time, just curious) articles about supplementing the air in a cutting room with CO2 to enhance root growth. These were not canna based articles but commercial green houses. Perhaps there is something to this. I do agree that dumping unknown amounts in the dome may not be a great thing to do though.
 
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Cannabil

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Co2 for clones is jst unnecessary. If u want to use it just grab a nice humidity dome and put those little co2 pads that you get wet and stick it on the side of the dome if u really want to use it.

I dont run co2 at all on anything because I have fresh air constantly coming into the room, but using co2 enhancement properly definetely speeds up veg time and can ripen flowers quicker.

Its just really important that when you are adding co2 that you make sure room is dialed in and you environment is perfect otherwise you sre just wasting the co2 and $$ and you wont get any better results. Since co2 helps growth rates you need to feed more and keep temp and humidity correct so stomata can open and close to absorb and benefit from added co2. If u use co2 and it isnt done proprly can lead to deficiencies and problems in your garden. Hope this helps
 
Truth4:20

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Cannabil said:
Co2 for clones is jst unnecessary. If u want to use it just grab a nice humidity dome and put those little co2 pads that you get wet and stick it on the side of the dome if u really want to use it.

I dont run co2 at all on anything because I have fresh air constantly coming into the room, but using co2 enhancement properly definetely speeds up veg time and can ripen flowers quicker.

Its just really important that when you are adding co2 that you make sure room is dialed in and you environment is perfect otherwise you sre just wasting the co2 and $$ and you wont get any better results. Since co2 helps growth rates you need to feed more and keep temp and humidity correct so stomata can open and close to absorb and benefit from added co2. If u use co2 and it isnt done proprly can lead to deficiencies and problems in your garden. Hope this helps
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Nicely put, temps do have to be higher for plants to be able to use the extra co2 efficiently
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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I keep running across evidence that CO² does help root growth, in cuttings and in established plants.

I think that while it may be helpful, it isn't necessary to the process and thus may well be unnecessarily complicating things.
 
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Cannabil

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ttystikk said:
I keep running across evidence that CO² does help root growth, in cuttings and in established plants.

I think that while it may be helpful, it isn't necessary to the process and thus may well be unnecessarily complicating things.
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Co2 doesnt help root growth directly its indirectly related because your plants are able to increase their metabolic rate. DO (dissolved oxygen) coupled with co2 is what grows robust roots because you sre creating an awrobic environment for your roots. More oxygen means better root growth and air exchange.

Co2 is for the plant above the roots and o2 and dissovled oxygen is for below the plant in the roots. When these 2 elements work together you have a symbiotic relationship that provides excellerated growth rates for overall plant health. Many ppl find that co2 enriched gardens also ward off insects because they cant breathe and produce when co2 levels are increased.

Many growers also use co2 to kill spider mites if you can get your co2 levels high enough I forget what the amount is i think its above 20,000 ppm for an hour or so it will kill these bugs in your garden. If u have a properly sealed room you can use this method to eliminate and kill various insects that are hazardous to your plants and it really does work.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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I tried to kill bugs that way and it was totally ineffective for me.

I'm not so sure that CO² is only for green shoots. CO² is plentiful underground, being a byproduct of decomposition. Plants like decomposing things, so there has to be a reason. I don't think it's mere coincidence.
 
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Cannabil

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ttystikk said:
I tried to kill bugs that way and it was totally ineffective for me.

I'm not so sure that CO² is only for green shoots. CO² is plentiful underground, being a byproduct of decomposition. Plants like decomposing things, so there has to be a reason. I don't think it's mere coincidence.
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Roots have no use for co2 at all. Co2 is needed for photosynthesis which is absorbed thru the stomata. Roots use carbon and decomposition which converts carbon and sugars into co2 which is emitted in the atmosphere.

When co2 is added to the roots it starves the roots of oxygen which creates an anaerobic environment where pathogens and bacteria take over and kill roots by decomposition.

Co2 is not for your roots its for your plant to convert into energy which increase metabolism that allows the roots and plant to absorb more water and nutrients. Co2 is absorbed by plants thru leaves and oxygen is used by roots and its by product is co2 which is release into atmosphere.

If you have a reservoir w water and agitate it by circulating the water with a pump or airstone its beneficial for your roots because it releases the co2 and increases the oxygen which is why its beneficial for your roots. If you put co2 into your roots you would choke out the roots by depleting the oxygen. So co2 is not for your roots its is detrimental to their health.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Cannabil said:
Roots have no use for co2 at all. Co2 is needed for photosynthesis which is absorbed thru the stomata. Roots use carbon and decomposition which converts carbon and sugars into co2 which is emitted in the atmosphere.

When co2 is added to the roots it starves the roots of oxygen which creates an anaerobic environment where pathogens and bacteria take over and kill roots by decomposition.

Co2 is not for your roots its for your plant to convert into energy which increase metabolism that allows the roots and plant to absorb more water and nutrients. Co2 is absorbed by plants thru leaves and oxygen is used by roots and its by product is co2 which is release into atmosphere.

If you have a reservoir w water and agitate it by circulating the water with a pump or airstone its beneficial for your roots because it releases the co2 and increases the oxygen which is why its beneficial for your roots. If you put co2 into your roots you would choke out the roots by depleting the oxygen. So co2 is not for your roots its is detrimental to their health.
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I remain unconvinced.
 
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Cannabil

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ttystikk said:
I remain unconvinced.
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Thats ok. Just offering my input. It doesnt really matter either way co2 is beneficial for your plants and promotes growth and roots are part of the plant so they obviously will be bigger and more abundant but its not because the roots are using the co2 because its the upper part of the plant thats processing it. But same shit
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Cannabil said:
Thats ok. Just offering my input. It doesnt really matter either way co2 is beneficial for your plants and promotes growth and roots are part of the plant so they obviously will be bigger and more abundant but its not because the roots are using the co2 because its the upper part of the plant thats processing it. But same shit
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If one is using aqua flakes, would adding sweet or molasses benefit the garden in any way?
 
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