Club 600

an interesting article about breath analyzers for mj....you can click on the article to see all of it in the Daily Mail

How do we weed out high drivers? Why breathalyzers do NOT work on marijuana users - and scientists are struggling to find an alternative


The effects of alcohol vary based on a person's size and weight, metabolism rate, related food intake and the type and amount of beverage consumed. Not so with marijuana.




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I Would Put A Plate Of Twinkies On Da Table And Whoever Eats The Most Twinkies Is The Highest

Kinda like Steve Martin's old joke about "Getting Small"

The cops have a test. They give you a balloon.
If you can fit inside the balloon, then you are small.

Can anyone recommend any good led for my m8 hes trying to by new lights and wants to go led bit doesn't no any good brands or lights to go for, any ideas lads

budolskie said:

Can anyone recommend any good led for my m8 hes trying to by new lights and wants to go led bit doesn't no any good brands or lights to go for, any ideas lads

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DIY?

budolskie said:

Can anyone recommend any good led for my m8 hes trying to by new lights and wants to go led bit doesn't no any good brands or lights to go for, any ideas lads

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I think @GroErr runs tasty LED and he does quite well with them

Flawless logic BBC. :0)

Bbcchance said:

I think @GroErr runs tasty LED and he does quite well with them

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Lol, you setting me up BB? Not sure if I should be posting anything about LED's in this thread, could get trampled by the 600 crowd. I am technically in the 600 club, just 600w of 3590 COBs Recently switched to these from 2x 315w LEC's and liking the results.

Really liking those Tasty bars but imo any light using the 3590's is a good buy including DIY if you're so inclined. I have little time to garden so just bought them pre-built. I like the Tasty format which is a series of small bars, I run 3x 100w and 2x 150w bars for a total of 600w. Current run is covering ~3x8' and coming along nicely, a little low at 25w/sq. ft. but they're doing alright, just a mix of whatever I had in veg for the last run in 2016. I like the flexibility of multiple smaller bars to spread out when needed or use only what I need at the time without running a fixed amount of wattage. If you consider the pre-built bar format have a look at Pacific Light Concepts. Tons more info in the LED section.

3x8' run in 3 stages w/600w spread across the canopy:

That what he's looking at

GroErr said:

Lol, you setting me up BB? Not sure if I should be posting anything about LED's in this thread, could get trampled by the 600 crowd. I am technically in the 600 club, just 600w of 3590 COBs Recently switched to these from 2x 315w LEC's and liking the results.

Really liking those Tasty bars but imo any light using the 3590's is a good buy including DIY if you're so inclined. I have little time to garden so just bought them pre-built. I like the Tasty format which is a series of small bars, I run 3x 100w and 2x 150w bars for a total of 600w. Current run is covering ~3x8' and coming along nicely, a little low at 25w/sq. ft. but they're doing alright, just a mix of whatever I had in veg for the last run in 2016. I like the flexibility of multiple smaller bars to spread out when needed or use only what I need at the time without running a fixed amount of wattage. If you consider the pre-built bar format have a look at Pacific Light Concepts. Tons more info in the LED section.

3x8' run in 3 stages w/600w spread across the canopy:
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Wouldn't set you up bro, the 600 is a safe place not really about the light , hell outdoor growers hang here too, just tagged ya cause you know your shit lol

Bbcchance said:

Wouldn't set you up bro, the 600 is a safe place not really about the light , hell outdoor growers hang here too, just tagged ya cause you know your shit lol

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Lol just razzing, hadn't looked much in here though, was thinking I'd be chastised with my CMH and LED shit

Well boys and girls, lads and lasses. Duchie's Side Show Tent continues with a new anomaly.

I bring you Polyploidism.

Thats a very interesting plant there Duchie

I use a cmh aswell @GroErr in my 3x3 but got 3 dimmable ballasts at the tent they all on 400 at the min

So I've been waiting for one of you guys to go there because I'd like some opinions myself on this subject. My old digital crapped out on me so I'm back to my trusty magnetic for now but I do need to upgrade aaaaand, double up. As well as how you like them, I'm trying to determine the equivalency to a 600. I plan to run 2 4x4 tents/rooms. I've done some research recently, along with my daughters very bright boyfriend, and we were looking at COB's, particularly that high end brand (the name eludes me) and have no problems taking on a DIY. So mainly, are they worth the money and how do they produce. I hear less yield but more frosty and potent. I'm into that if I can make it up some way, like longer vegging or something. Anyway, what say ye 600. Appreciate the input. Thanks.

I'm also looking at those 315w CMH fixtures but know little about them. Pros and cons as well.

Day 39. Still think the move and having them in darkness for near4 days has put me back a bit, but i can finnally see the finnish coming!
First time growing this Cookies cut myself and after all the hassle i went through to get it, its not one of my Fav's. Dont get me wrong the bud is as nice as anything, but the plant just seem's a bit fussy and not ver vigerous compared to others. I remember the pistils got burned up a bit after being covered with bags and whacked right back under the 600, but the Cookies looks like they'r finnishing up and not even at 6 weeks!

Starting to show purple in the fading fans and in the bud.
The Glue just seems to do everything for you, structure, FROST and seems happy as larry

And the small Psychosis is coming on grand

Hope everyones having a braw weekend.

Nice frost on the Glue Jambo.

Some shots from day 49. Need to dial my tent in better next time, getting cold and hot spots in there.

A cold Cuvee


A Hot Fat Cherry x SSDD #9

duchieman said:

I'm also looking at those 315w CMH fixtures but know little about them. Pros and cons as well.

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I used the 315's for the last 2 1/2 years, now using the 3590 Cree COBs which are the higher end in the COB world but will likely use the CMH mid winter for some extra heat, I want to try it mixed with some COBs.

CMH is easily capable of 1.5 gpw with clones of any decent strain if you're going for yield. I do a lot of variety and my lowest returns in pheno hunts from seed with no training still got me 1 gpw+, they won't replace a 600 straight up imo, more like 450-500w equivalent if you have your hps environment dialed in. Each 315 in a hood can cover up to 3.5'x3.5'x3.5"H well. Quality is top notch and density is good or they wouldn't pull those kind of numbers. If your room is setup to handle hps these would be easy to manage, more heat than COBs but less than hps.

3590 COBs from what I've seen so far match or exceed the CMH yields watt for watt. What has sold me on them though is the quality is even better than CMH, for some reason terps on strains I've been running as long as 3 years are clearly louder, very noticeable difference (haven't changed my environment or methods so have to attribute it to the lights). For these to replace a 600 you're good with ~400w to match or exceed your 600 output and top shelf quality. Heat is less and you have to consider that, particularly if you're moving from hps. It can be good like in my case running 630w of CMH was stretching my room and sometimes difficult to manage heat. It could also be detrimental in that less heat = higher humidity so some adjustments may be needed.

Price wise the CMH is ~$1.25-$1.50 per watt, COBs are somewhere around $2-$2.50 per watt and continue to get cheaper particularly if you DIY. Both are a bigger investment up front but you get the returns pretty quick with their efficiency/gpw. You can either run less wattage and get the same yields or replace watt-for-watt and increase your total output.

excellent review-Thank you.


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