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genuity

genuity

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lilroach said:
I'm chiming in here without reading much of this thread (4479 pages!!).

I'm in the process of finishing building a second flower room and I was on the fence regarding lighting with T5HO's or HPS. I've seen photo's of both Rid's and DCobeen's grows and they are amazing.

I think if plants are spread apart and are not like 5' tall T5's are a very good option....but that's not how I want to grow in the new flower room. I'm looking for tall bushy plants that will most likely be bunched together (it's a 4'x8' room) and am anticipating growing them to about 5' tall.

It's for that reason and the cost of buying all the T5 bulbs and the multiple fixtures that pointed me to going with two 600w HPS lights.
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That's it...I was just about to write something similar to this post..

With smaller space,and smaller plants...yes cmh,yes LED,yes t5

Larger spaces,larger plants,bigger lighting
 
FLkeys1

FLkeys1

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RM3 said:
Dc is doing this test grow for me as I only have T5's and was curious as to how my Thunderfuck might be different grown under different lights? In return I am teachin him how to get the most out of his garden :bigjoint:

T5's are the shitz if you understand light as a tool, my setup is 1000 watts
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Seems logical, a 1000 watts is a 1000 watts. My question, is the light spectrum different ?
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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lilroach said:
I'm chiming in here without reading much of this thread (4479 pages!!).

I'm in the process of finishing building a second flower room and I was on the fence regarding lighting with T5HO's or HPS. I've seen photo's of both Rid's and DCobeen's grows and they are amazing.

I think if plants are spread apart and are not like 5' tall T5's are a very good option....but that's not how I want to grow in the new flower room. I'm looking for tall bushy plants that will most likely be bunched together (it's a 4'x8' room) and am anticipating growing them to about 5' tall.

It's for that reason and the cost of buying all the T5 bulbs and the multiple fixtures that pointed me to going with two 600w HPS lights.
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Oh my plants are 5' tall bro. I am comparing each light. The HPS is a tiny bit ahead but not showing as much frost. When I look down the plant both lights are doing the same with lower branches. If you dont care about heat then do side lighting of t5's and a hps over the top.
I pack them in bro. My 12 bulb 648 watt T5 does a 3'x5' area, the biggest thing is temps and quality. Do you want the best bud to smoke or do you want yield to sell. the yeild is only 10 percent or so but the quality makes up for the yield easy. I will have better numbers in 2 months or so when I chop and compare same size plants from each light. Then the CTF's will go into flower with SW7 x BMS /Rude DOG and clones of what I got running.
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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Aeroknow said:
Well, you guys got me all pumped up about Karma's gear. So, i finally put in an order for some. I'm gonna try out a pack of the Ghostrider v2.0 first. I really wanted to try the whiteOG first, But they out on the tude.:-(
If the whiteOG is anything like whitefire, it's gonna be a must have for me.
I'm trying out some more of HSO's gear also. I split it up into 2 orders so I can get 2 freebie blueberry HB's instead of one.
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Oh yeah very nice choices. you gonna have allot of fun.
 
DCobeen

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FLkeys1 said:
Seems logical, a 1000 watts is a 1000 watts. My question, is the light spectrum different ?
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I am seeing 3' penetration from my T5 I do have 3 ati bulbs(coral plus-actinic) in it plus a mix of 3000k/4100/6500 I perfect mix i hit UV B and both photosynthesis in the 400/600 ranges. I hope this helps.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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DCobeen said:
I got it on ebay. vg 412 black $146 it had a dent but was new. They sell for $165 with either 3000k or 6500k bulbs with free shipping. So 3 ATI bulbs Around $80 and you are set if you get 3000k bulbs. I couldnt believe T5's did so good till RM3 proved it. I asked him to put a couple pics up so everyone gets to see what they do. The best part is low low heat. The reasons I am switching to all Fluorescent lights are Heat/Quality. this run will show me how much diff the yield is but it isnt gonna be much and I would rather have quality. Led's will be what we all use in the future.
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Honesty that's not a bad price for a fixture you don't have to buy cfm fans for to keep cool. What are the ATI bulbs? How many bulbs do you need for the whole fixture? I'm always looking at better ways to keep heat down and improve quality and if these fixtures are doing the same as hps it's a no brainier to me. If the yield isn't much less than hps it's a no brainer. But like someone else said will head work with big plants. They should being that your using the same amount of watts
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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DCobeen said:
Oh my plants are 5' tall bro. I am comparing each light. The HPS is a tiny bit ahead but not showing as much frost. When I look down the plant both lights are doing the same with lower branches. If you dont care about heat then do side lighting of t5's and a hps over the top.
I pack them in bro. My 12 bulb 648 watt T5 does a 3'x5' area, the biggest thing is temps and quality. Do you want the best bud to smoke or do you want yield to sell. the yeild is only 10 percent or so but the quality makes up for the yield easy. I will have better numbers in 2 months or so when I chop and compare same size plants from each light. Then the CTF's will go into flower with SW7 x BMS /Rude DOG and clones of what I got running.
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That's cus your t5 has a better mix of all spectrums than the hps. I expect that with the mix you have with the uvb bulbs. It really has me intrigued and I can't wait to see finished results.
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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Search out ATI aquarium bulbs. yes aquirium bulbs. for 12 bulbs I like 3-4 ati. they are $28 each i think. look for coral plus and actinic. you can save money if you go with truelumen but ATI is a bit better. In my 8 bulb fixture I have 3 also. I went to menards and got some 4100 t5's on sale 2 for $5 I got like 8 of them. Its good to have a couple spare bulbs around. Each bulb should last 1-2 years depending.
grams per what hps will always win.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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RM3 said:
No, I loaned my light meter to a friend and have not gotten it back yet LOL
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Someone in this thread said something about a light meter app for smartphones. Check it out may be worth while. I just use the light meter on one of those cheap ass soil readers lol. That's all I use it for and works wonders

Never mind I see somebody already told you but the soil reader works just fine
 
RM3

RM3

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akhiymjames said:
Someone in this thread said something about a light meter app for smartphones. Check it out may be worth while. I just use the light meter on one of those cheap ass soil readers lol. That's all I use it for and works wonders

Never mind I see somebody already told you but the soil reader works just fine
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Yeah I really don't need a meter to tell me it's workin as my buds tell me that :bigjoint:gdpwk9.jpg
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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RM3 said:
They start flowering faster because of my odd light timings but don't really finish faster. I tend to grow Sats and Sat Dom plants that finish in 10 weeks or so
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Well if they start flowering faster I'm sure that helps knock a few days off. I think I need to get me one of these to compare too. I'm loving the idea of the mixed spectrums without the super high price of LEDs. Plus the HID bulbs with that have the mixed spectrums I can buy a whole another light and ballast for the price they ask for them so this something I'm def interested in seeing

What flowering times you use by the way??
 
RM3

RM3

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akhiymjames said:
Well if they start flowering faster I'm sure that helps knock a few days off. I think I need to get me one of these to compare too. I'm loving the idea of the mixed spectrums without the super high price of LEDs. Plus the HID bulbs with that have the mixed spectrums I can buy a whole another light and ballast for the price they ask for them so this something I'm def interested in seeing

What flowering times you use by the way??
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You can get the faster flowering with any light it is about the timing, I use what is called GasLight Routine or 12/1 to veg. It reduces the stretch and builds up flower hormones so they just start flowering when you flip em
 
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