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Drowning-Man

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so expecting service at a public hospital is the same as stealing my neighbors car when mine breaks down..GTFO with the stupidz
For the most part I like Rob this conversation is getting a little outta hand though just refuse to reply to his post, that's what I do with certain people on here, mostly just one actually lol;)
 

Rob Roy

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so expecting service at a public hospital is the same as stealing my neighbors car when mine breaks down..GTFO with the stupidz

No, making a person interact with you, who is unwilling to and isn't using offensive force against you is the common theme.

You rightly disavow it in one instance, but wrongly think your need creates an obligation upon another person and somehow creates a nonexistent right for you to be able to force that person to serve you against their will.

I win, now go drink some beer and watch your football game. Please don't force anyone who is unwilling to interact with you to do so, it's not nice.
 

londonfog

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No, making a person interact with you, who is unwilling to and isn't using offensive force against you is the common theme.

You rightly disavow it in one instance, but wrongly think your need creates an obligation upon another person and somehow creates a nonexistent right for you to be able to force that person to serve you against their will.

I win, now go drink some beer and watch your football game. Please don't force anyone who is unwilling to interact with you to do so, it's not nice.
Friday is the football game. We will blame the lack of paying attention on the medication.
I never force anyone to interact with me unless I'm at a public business.
 

Rob Roy

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I find Rob entertaining with some utopia beliefs and that would be very hurtful in the world we live in.

I notice you never answered where any person gets the right to initiate force against another person to make them serve them... ?

I don't have that right, so if I do use offensive force, I believe I would be wrong.
 

londonfog

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I notice you never answered where any person gets the right to initiate force against another person to make them serve them... ?

I don't have that right, so if I do use offensive force, I believe I would be wrong.
Sorry that you hate Civil Rights, but I support them.
 

Rob Roy

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Because I'm a Christian sometimes atheist get really offended when a Christian offers to pray for them.
If you pray for anything pray for the answer to how a person can initiate offensive force against an indifferent or peaceful person and force them to serve you and not be in the wrong.

Then let me know what the answer is.
 

londonfog

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If you pray for anything pray for the answer to how a person can initiate offensive force against an indifferent or peaceful person and force them to serve you and not be in the wrong.

Then let me know what the answer is.
an indifferent or peaceful person would not have to be forced to serve someone at a business open to the public. Now a racist POS might.
 

Drowning-Man

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If you pray for anything pray for the answer to how a person can initiate offensive force against an indifferent or peaceful person and force them to serve you and not be in the wrong.

Then let me know what the answer is.
Dude give it a rest you've made yer point
 

Rob Roy

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Sorry that you hate Civil Rights, but I support them.

I don't hate the concept of people of all races being judged as individuals. I embrace that idea.

I do hate the idea that some people think they have a right to use force to make another person serve them. I reject that idea in favor of peaceful and voluntary human interactions between people, if that can't happen then people should not force an involuntary association like a slaver or rapist would.
 

londonfog

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I don't hate the concept of people of all races being judged as individuals. I embrace that idea.

I do hate the idea that some people think they have a right to use force to make another person serve them. I reject that idea in favor of peaceful and voluntary human interactions between people, if that can't happen then people should not force an involuntary association like a slaver or rapist would.
I'm off to the store to buy some things. Or what you would call force raping and slavery
 

Rob Roy

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an indifferent or peaceful person would not have to be forced to serve someone at a business open to the public. Now a racist POS might.

Then if they decline to associate, you'd be willing to leave them alone rather than initiate force against them ?

A peaceful person doesn't create human interactions with people who decline to associate with them, do they ?
 

Rob Roy

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I'm off to the store to buy some things. Or what you would call force raping and slavery

If the exchange is mutual, they offer you something in exchange for an agreed upon price, it wouldn't be slavery or rape.

If you set the terms on a unilateral basis and force them to comply it has similarities to rape.
 

Rob Roy

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Dude give it a rest you've made yer point

Yes, you're right.

As usual nobody was able to offer a solid argument to explain the contradictions in the opposing point of view of how it can be both wrong and right to force a human interaction.
 
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