Clones Will Not Root

Hi,

I'm having trouble getting clones to root in my tent. I have gone so far as to get a special tent just for them. I also used a bunch of reptile equipment to get my environment just right.I used a cermaci heat lamp to keep the temp 80, I used a special temp and humidity controller along side a reptitank humidifier system I kepp this at 85%. I almost forgot the small fan i use to disperse the heat so its not radiating on them,

I'm using root riot cubes in trays and I've got around 22 watts of T5 flourescent lighting. I spray them off with clonex mist when I have to fill the humidifier.

The only thing ive noticed is the root riot cubes are soaked because of condensation. That is my best guess and I dont know how to fix it since if i lower the humidity to 77% they get droopy.even with the cubes soaked. I've tried domes but they just get moldy or droppy or the stems rot.

Is there anything ekse I'm not doing or can you suggest a fix for humidity?


Thanks

https://www.rollitup.org/t/easy-diy-20-bubble-cloner-a-picture-how-to.835810/

Cloning isn't hard. Follow instructions, keep clean water in it, and watch your cuttings grow roots! No domes needed & i leave them under a high light. 1-2 weeks and you'll have roots.

upnsmoke13 said:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/easy-diy-20-bubble-cloner-a-picture-how-to.835810/

Cloning isn't hard. Follow instructions, keep clean water in it, and watch your cuttings grow roots! No domes needed & i leave them under a high light. 1-2 weeks and you'll have roots.

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This.... fooooor sure. I tried the tray and dome on heat pad and different kinds of cubes - had awful success (for too long). Got the Clone King, and has been a total game changer. Maybe not 100% root, but close to it. Seriously, its one of the things I wish I had done sooner. Dude above is spot on.

I have 4 ez clone 16 but had trouble with ph flux and cynabacteria and I have been unable to keep effective tea brewed. ZHO has been discontinued. If anyone has an alternative let me know i've been using rhizoblast

On the other hand, the room I tried all that in had poor ambient conditions for veg as well so maybe I should try the ezcloner in the crawlspace. Doesn't matter what I put down there as long as they have roots everything explodes with growth.

Good idea

to OP, Have you got air vents on the sides of your humdity domes? you might need to check that.

too wet, ready to grow fungus, oxygen depleted root zone, ridiculous spraying of cloning compound on leaves. maybe not worth saving
read a grow bible quick to try, or at least succeed in the future, first chapters even
slice cutting end at 45 close to new meristem growth, dip lightly into cloning gel then into a cup of moistened(once!)promix
or a (once!) moistened rapid rooter/cube etc. mist with water(once!)dome for a day or two if clone is standing up, remove dome, do not water unless plug is dry and hard. do not water pro mix until roots are emerging through drain hole in cup, when roots completely fill cup, when dry once again transplant by removing rootball plug and set into fresh dry mix and back fill add (only!) 1/4th the container volume in water and not again until the container is once again light and dry to the lift before plant wilts.
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thekevin07 said:

I have 4 ez clone 16 but had trouble with ph flux and cynabacteria and I have been unable to keep effective tea brewed. ZHO has been discontinued. If anyone has an alternative let me know i've been using rhizoblast

On the other hand, the room I tried all that in had poor ambient conditions for veg as well so maybe I should try the ezcloner in the crawlspace. Doesn't matter what I put down there as long as they have roots everything explodes with growth.

Good idea

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Do you use tea in the cloner, you mean? And Im not familiar with rhizoblast, had to look it up.

I use nothing - I fill mine with water from my well, slice off the clone and plug them in - no products and no dome. Close to perfect success.

Hopefully it was the environment from before that was your issue, like you said - because these cloner deals have been a small miracle in my garden! Hopefully yours gets dialed in so you can remove all those cumbersome steps with plugs and trays.

Thank god I found this thread.

I am struggling like a bitch over here with dome/heat pad setup . 0-5% chance root. 90% mold.

£20 cheap DIY bubble cloner using just tap water can root in arround 5 to 10 days. just a plastic container(better in black so no light gets in) and an air injection stone and a cheap air pump, I also have a heater in there but never used it. all i do is a dip in rooting powder and thats it.

bubble or aerocloner is your best bet for harder to clone plants.

I second the clone king I use it and works great and the price is way cheaper then the ez cloners

Try removing the heat pad from the situation on a batch.

I used to think there were tough to clone varieties too, silly me, of hundreds of strains since...none were any more difficult to
clone than the next. cleanliness, room conditions, mold counts, tools, habits....those is what fooked me until the grow bible read.

Look up cloning in coco. Works great and is easy.
Fill container with coco that is wet but not soaking wet. Make hole. Insert clone. Wait for roots.

chemphlegm said:

I used to think there were tough to clone varieties too, silly me, of hundreds of strains since...none were any more difficult to
clone than the next. cleanliness, room conditions, mold counts, tools, habits....those is what fooked me until the grow bible read.

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Interesting - so have you never had a plant you couldnt clone?

Now that I think of it, I am pretty sure the only strains I couldnt clone were from my efforts before the clone king (which certainly would have had a varying environment).

upinthesticks said:

Interesting - so have you never had a plant you couldnt clone?

Now that I think of it, I am pretty sure the only strains I couldnt clone were from my efforts before the clone king (which certainly would have had a varying environment).

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nope, I do notice the later in flower the longer it takes for the cutting to reveg but it roots just the same. I could root a broomstick

chemphlegm said:

nope, I do notice the later in flower the longer it takes for the cutting to reveg but it roots just the same. I could root a broomstick

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Thats funny. I've always said I could root a toothpick with my bubble cloner lol. Hardest strain I think I've ever had to clone though has been GG4. Its the only one I use rapid rooters and a dome tray setup for. I've tried her every way, but she just wont go faster than roots at 10 days, transplant at 14.

I've tried just about every method for making clones. Rooters, straight perlite, cup of water, DIY bubble cloners, DIY cloners with sprayers, dirt, peat moss, etc... All work. I settled on coco for cloning because it works and it's easy. I found bubble cloners to be more work than necessary to achieve the same result. They work but so do other much simpler methods. I try to make everything as simple as possible and what's simpler than just sticking a cutting in some damp coco?

"Clones will not root", turned into a PSA for aero cloners and bubblers...


Root cubes need to be half as wet as whatever you think.

Mist with plain water occasionally if needed

Prop dome lid off tray if you cannot control rH.