Clones: Nothing but problems

Hey guys . Im having the worst luck with these clones. As soon as i transplant them they die. The leaves are turning upside down and drying out(most of them).

I am wondering as i have looked all over . Whats the best temp/humidity to keep when transplanting to dirt?
The clones seem well rooted . And im pretty sure i watered enough . (Around 1 gallon water to each of the 5 gallon pots)
But they still seem to do bad.

My temps right now stay between 72 and 85 and around 30% humidity .
What could i be doing wrong?
I cant take pics atm. But was hoping i could get some insight.

They are rooted clones? Maybe up the humidity if you can and water with some Superthrive or something to help with transplant shock. Mist them and make sure the light isn't too close also.

I used to kill my little babies with too much nutrients. Kindness kills. I find myself saying that a lot when it comes to growing plants.

Theres roots coming out of the rockwool . I wouldn't say allot but i see them . I tried ST but have been told its not really good to use , So i have been using plain water.

Also my soil mix is .
(1) 2.8cf bag sun grow to (1) 1.0cf bag of foxfarm premium select with earthworm castings and guano. With some "Crop circles" Coconut scrapings or whatever there coconut .

I don't have a clean bottle to mist with . I will have to get one .
You say to raise the humidity but to what? What should it be at for the different cycles?
How often should one mist there clones? and how much ?
Also what temps for what cycles vs humidity?
I always here people talk about these things but there don't seem to be a chart for different cycles at all.

Thanks for the advice . Hope im not asking too noobish of questions . But i killed like 20+ of 35 clones costing me like 2500$. Not a happy week. :/

Also i know this is a guessing game without pics . Im working on it . Just trying to get some #'s to work with till then .

Also should i add anything to the "mist" water? If so whats best ? I have a bunch of different nutes.

There is your issue right there. New clone are too fragile to have guano so soon. the worm casting are more then enough in small amounts. You want a soil that is low in nutes and dont add any. I use MG misture contro, which has plenty of high nirtogen up front so I dont have to feed for 2 months times.I find ph my water to 6.8 works well and I use about a quart to watre my babies when they go into 3 gallon pots then maybe a week or so before next watering is needed. Dont mist them keep the temps around 70-75 degrees F dont use large lights a simple 4 foot shop florescent light is perfect as hid light will kill these young ones and cfls well they just suck for the most part.Light fan moving the air around them. DO NOT overwater or add any nutes til after a week after they go into the soil

The castings and guano are in the soil. I didn't add them . Im using a 1000w mh but its over 4 feet away. Basically just lighting the room .
They seemed to be drying out .I assumed i under watered.
Its weird one or two blades on the leafs flip over kinda twisted looking .

If i can keep at least one alive i will be all good as i can clone myself some from that.

I have 2 fans . One on the wall and one 3 foot tall floor fan both on the lowest setting.

But since i cant very well change the 300+$ in soil i have is there anything i can do besides praying and playing music for them

Btw this is the exact soil mix the guy i get the clones from uses and don't have a problem with it at all he says .

Well I see the 2 issues there. The clones are getting to much food and taht light is still way to intense for them. Best bet is to go get a $10 shop light and a bag of MG moisture control and some 1/2 galln pots. Place your rockwool cubes in the MG soil in the pots and then give one good water and then they should show good new growth in a few days when you can see they are well going and about 6 inches tall then they can go into the other soil and under the 1000 watt light. You just have to much of everything to soon

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Theres roots coming out of the rockwool . I wouldn't say allot but i see them . I tried ST but have been told its not really good to use , So i have been using plain water.

Also my soil mix is .
(1) 2.8cf bag sun grow to (1) 1.0cf bag of foxfarm premium select with earthworm castings and guano. With some "Crop circles" Coconut scrapings or whatever there coconut .

I don't have a clean bottle to mist with . I will have to get one .
You say to raise the humidity but to what? What should it be at for the different cycles?
How often should one mist there clones? and how much ?
Also what temps for what cycles vs humidity?
I always here people talk about these things but there don't seem to be a chart for different cycles at all.

Thanks for the advice . Hope im not asking too noobish of questions . But i killed like 20+ of 35 clones costing me like 2500$. Not a happy week. :/

Also i know this is a guessing game without pics . Im working on it . Just trying to get some #'s to work with till then .

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The soil mix seems very good...nice job on that.

For the most part during veg stage and trying to establish the clones I would shoot for around 65% humidity +-10%. When flowering you should try to keep it around 25% because of mold.

Mist them a couple times a day with some plain water or if you have a mild nutrient that says you can use it to folair feed with mix that in at 1/4 recommended strength. Just a couple sprays to wet them should be good. Also, when you water make sure you ph the water to 6.5-7.

Temps? You have them about where you need them really. I personally like mine to be no lower than 60 with the lights off and 85 with the lights on...make sure you have proper ventilation. You can use those temps throughout the whole time. Remember marijuana is a tropical plant and if you can mimic those conditions you should be good.

Always remember that your mileage will vary due to genetics and other variables. The key is to learn what the plant is telling you, it will come with time. Also, there are outlines to growing, but feel free to experiment.

$2500, would sure hate to see them go shame...what strain is it?

Good looking out . Theres a few that are doing good . I have 15 more coming as i complained about the fert burned ones he gave me Gotta love that .

Im gonna go from cube to clear "party" cups(cube+cup) till i see roots in the cups . Then going to the 1 gallon pots i have . Would that sun gro medium (dont know if its popular) Be ok for the clones? From what i can tell its only a medium . No nutes ect.

Also the mix i make is pretty much 3part medium to 1 part foxfarm . Not allot at all of the ff in comparison . Do you really think thats too much ?


Thanks for the help. I wish i wouldn't have broke the usb port in my camera. I need a new card reader as the one i have reads everything BUT my camera card lol . What luck eh?

The genetics are .
Purple kush
Trainwreck
Blueberry(not sure of the cross)
Kevorkian
This weird dro he calls monkey paw . But i doubt it really is . But i never saw the original strian . This is weird bent buds . Very nice smoke tho.
and one other . That i cant recall . I have been smoking this guys strains for a while now and know each ones diffrences .
He calls them slang names most of the time like "purps" So i will have to check all the right names . He just gave me a few of each he grows . As each strain are very high price sellers around here .

Also yeah i feel safe experimenting with my from seed plants . As there much more forgiving . These clones are giving me a headache . I have to get it right with these next 15 or im screwed lol .


Edit: Also my temp has been a steady 72-78 the last day or two . And im getting way better at keeping it there . (long as no one touches the damn thermostat) And humidity is at 35-40% right now.

If they are drying out to fast, buy a dome for your girls ( or cut some 2 liter bottle apart and make little domes for each plant). once they get stronger you can take it off. i use ph'd water for my clones, both in the res (hydro) and in a water mister. i generally don't add any nutrients until they make it past the 2 week mark.
1000w is overkill for clones, cfl's or fluorescence work well and don't kill your power bill.

If they come rooted as you say that means a nice root mass under the rockwool cube so they can go right into soil not nutes and if they are rooted I have to disagree do not mist them as your just causing issues. Use a no nute soil mix.pots no smaller then 1/2 gallon or you ll root bound in a few days. Ditch the 1000 watt light and keep the water at ph5.5 if you dont put them in soil right away.I have taken several thousand clones and have about a 95% success rate with them and have found clone powder is much better and roots days faster then gels like clonex.