Nimbus2506
Active Member
pfft, all this talk about people making money. It's got to be a conspiracy !
Let me tell you something. The world is about making money. Hypothetically speaking, If you grow weed and your competitors house blew up in some freak accident. Is it industrial espionage? If someone hears that a company is about to collapse so they sell all the stocks in that company that they don't have (short selling), does that mean they were accounted for that?
Fact is everyone is out to make money. If you knew that the oil industry was about to collapse, would you invest money in it? Of course not. People aren't stupid.
This is why the whole argument of "OMGZZZZ His going to make money, it's a conspiracy" is a mute point...
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I heard someone made a point about volcanoes emitting more CO2 than humans. There was once a time I would agree with that but that has not been the case for quite a long time.
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Source: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/planes-or-volcano/
Notably, the amount of time planes were on the ground doesn't stack up with the time the volcano was emitting. However, you can see that the volcano wouldn't stack up against human emissions (73,972,603 tons per day) against the max 300,000 tons per day. If you do the math, that equates to 0.4%
If I may quote Stanley Williams Paper on "Global Carbon Dioxide Emissions To The Atmosphere By Volcanoes" - 1992 (revised)
Now I know what you're saying; "Double standards !" Natural environment emits more CO2 than humans have. The key here are the isotope ratios C13/C12. I always forget which way around it goes but plants prefer one type whilst humans emit the other. This ratio has been increasing in the environment and hence the build up.
Man I could write heaps more on this with links to a tonne of papers on the matter but I'm just not feeling it. You cannot change the minds of contrarians, no amount of evidence can presuade them. This is the irony when they call Pro-AGW "religious" on the subject.
Let me tell you something. The world is about making money. Hypothetically speaking, If you grow weed and your competitors house blew up in some freak accident. Is it industrial espionage? If someone hears that a company is about to collapse so they sell all the stocks in that company that they don't have (short selling), does that mean they were accounted for that?
Fact is everyone is out to make money. If you knew that the oil industry was about to collapse, would you invest money in it? Of course not. People aren't stupid.
This is why the whole argument of "OMGZZZZ His going to make money, it's a conspiracy" is a mute point...
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I heard someone made a point about volcanoes emitting more CO2 than humans. There was once a time I would agree with that but that has not been the case for quite a long time.
View attachment 1038287
Source: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/planes-or-volcano/
Notably, the amount of time planes were on the ground doesn't stack up with the time the volcano was emitting. However, you can see that the volcano wouldn't stack up against human emissions (73,972,603 tons per day) against the max 300,000 tons per day. If you do the math, that equates to 0.4%
If I may quote Stanley Williams Paper on "Global Carbon Dioxide Emissions To The Atmosphere By Volcanoes" - 1992 (revised)
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Now I know what you're saying; "Double standards !" Natural environment emits more CO2 than humans have. The key here are the isotope ratios C13/C12. I always forget which way around it goes but plants prefer one type whilst humans emit the other. This ratio has been increasing in the environment and hence the build up.
Man I could write heaps more on this with links to a tonne of papers on the matter but I'm just not feeling it. You cannot change the minds of contrarians, no amount of evidence can presuade them. This is the irony when they call Pro-AGW "religious" on the subject.
