Classic Seeds Grow Journal

Tokerdey said:

Hey HB, I love your threads and your dyna gro comparisons have convinced me to use dyna for my first solo grow. I have been looking at Dyna's gro, bloom, protect, calmag + , and floralicious +. Figured you may be able to help me with my feeding regiment, and mixes? Glad to follow this grow of yours too, looking very good so far. #2 is blooming and grooming! Love it love your buds.

Thanks man!! Appreciate your help.

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Well, if you're growing in promix like I am for this grow, protekt, grow and bloom are the only bottles I use in promix.

Here is a little ditty I've posted before:

Grow, Bloom and Protekt is all you need. In Promix, I haven’t found much use for Magpro as it is pretty strong stuff and IMO is meant for hydroponic growing when using RO water.

When you use Protekt and one of their bases in roughly equal amounts, your pH should land in the low 6’s but this is dependent on your water source. Odds are you’ll need slightly less protekt than base. Find the ratio that works best for your water. (ie. Maybe you like to feed your vegging plants at 250ppm (.7 scale), that means you’ll need 2mls/gal of a base and maybe 1-1.5mls/gal of Protekt balances your pH, experiment, always add Protekt first).

You should be feeding with Grow a lot more than Bloom during flower as Bloom doesn’t contain enough N to keep your plants green. Bloom is awesome in hydro, not so much in promix. I’ll occasionally give 50/50 mixes of Grow and Bloom during the last half of flower but most of the time I’m feeding with Grow. I do on rare occasions feed with 100% bloom but only when the plants are perfectly green top-to-bottom and it’s later in the flowering period.

Flowering plants really shouldn’t need more than about 1 tsp/gal of base and enough Protekt to balance your pH, cut that in half for veg.

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Ahhhh thank you! Very helpful. Not doing promix, doing hydro. Between Magpro and calmag+ , which one would be better fit? Any real difference? And I like the idea of FL+ , so I'll be using that the entire grow as well.

Tokerdey said:

Ahhhh thank you! Very helpful. Not doing promix, doing hydro. Between Magpro and calmag+ , which one would be better fit? Any real difference? And I like the idea of FL+ , so I'll be using that the entire grow as well.

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Protekt and grow for veg. Protekt, grow, bloom and magpro (if using RO) for flower. Feed at whatever EC has given you success in the past. 80% of your EC should be base nutes, maybe 25% of that should be 'grow' to keep those plants green.

how often do you feed with nutes its not every time

xGrowboyx said:

how often do you feed with nutes its not every time

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The plants in this journal have been fed at every watering. When and how often to feed a plant is very specific to the plant itself and the environment that it's in. Generically, people feed, feed, water. You can feed lightly and feed at every watering or you can feed heavily and not feed all that often. In the end, it's all about keeping your medium free of salt buildup.

Quick update...

Rooted clones from this journal:



Glamour shot of number 2 (ring light):

beautiful pictures

Little of subject HB but I just got done having a good laugh reading your posts on somebody's nutrient comparison grow a couple years ago. Don't know if you remember but it was hilarious to me. Some people just don't get it. Appreciate your good work keep it up! I'm sure you will

We're finishing up week 6 with today being day 42. Overall they're a little heavier and a little greasier than last week and I'm very happy with how they're progressing. They all still smell very similar to one another giving off a banana cream aroma though number 3 is about 50/50 with banana creme and earth. They're also getting harder and harder to move as they become more top-heavy as these weeks progress. In the pictures below, I photoed the main cola of each plant though I don't think I quite captured the resin production as well as I could have. If they look frosty in the pics below, they're actually more frosty in person.

At the moment, number 1 is probably the most sativa-leaning plant of the group with her loosely packed frosty foxtails.







Number 2 is starting to put on some weight as she's having trouble standing up. She's impressively frosty right now.







Number 3 is a strong plant that seems to be growing a collection of frosty golfball flowers with thick white hairs. I have a feeling those flowers are going to get pretty solid in the weeks to come.

Great grow HB!! You are the reason I switched to DynaGro from Advanced Sensi and it seemed to give me really good results plus doesn't hurt too much on my pockets. You should look into The Guano Company Budswel because when I added that to my feeding regimen I can really tell it added some extra aroma and stickiness. Just a thought.

Wow those are some happy looking plants!

khmerdelight said:

Great grow HB!! You are the reason I switched to DynaGro from Advanced Sensi and it seemed to give me really good results plus doesn't hurt too much on my pockets. You should look into The Guano Company Budswel because when I added that to my feeding regimen I can really tell it added some extra aroma and stickiness. Just a thought.

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Thanks for the suggestion! I'm actually not a big fan of high phosphorus plant food formulas intended for 'dirt'. I've found that they'll turn your leaves yellow as in my experience, the number one element needed here is nitrogen. Maybe budswel is beneficial in certain situations but I'm not sure I could put it to good use.

Fantastic looking plants HB!!which one do you think will be your keeper?

maphisto said:

Fantastic looking plants HB!!which one do you think will be your keeper?

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Based on *looks* alone, I'd say #2 is making a good case for herself. But we'll have to see how they all smoke before I make any final decisions.

wow beautifull grow best of luck hope to be this good one day.

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It's day 49 today and I apologize that I cannot get better pictures of these plants. They're just too top heavy to move around so I'm forced to take shots of what is visible. Hopefully these flower pics are enough of an update here. The next update will probably be in 9 or 10 days as I need to head out of town for work and will update when I'm back. A trusted friend is watching my stuff while I'm gone and even though they do a good job, plants don't seem to like it when their cultivators leave. I think these plants are doing great right now, hopefully that's the case when I return.

In previous pictures, you can see that number 1 has two main colas. This week they've become too heavy to stay upright and you can see the seed bracts have started to grow back towards the light.



Number one continures to foxtail and take on the classic sativa structure that I'm used to seeing. Maybe it's the thai influence?




I think number two here is getting chunky and needs the wall for support:



A side bud resin shot on plant number 2:




The string in the back of number 3 is supporting this main grow shoot. She's got some dense flowers!



Number 3 is in the back of the grow area and is hard to photograph properly:



A crop of the previous picture to show her very nice resin production:

What a great looking plant, those genetics look top of the line, looks like he is a good breeder!!

HB Props on your grow! I know this maybe not the proper venue but I couldnt figure out how to PM you. I just picked up the Dyna Line and have a bubbler with some clones rooting in RO & Cal/mag. They will be ready to transfer soon and I was wanting to know what the safe starting PPM .7 conversion would be? I have read your entire Dyna vs AN but wanted to confirm starting PPM or ml/gal of grow formula, pro tek, magpro (if any) in DWC. Also you say top up with magpro and RO so does that mean you dont apply Magpro in the intial rez mix and just use in addbacks? I can figure it out after I get going but the initial application for early veg is where I am a little nervous with no experience with DYNA.
Thanks in advance!

I'm back and I think things look pretty darn good. My hat is off to the help I had while I was gone, they did as well as I could've hoped given the instructions that I left.

Today is day 59 and I was greeted by a cola pretty much hitting me in the face as I opened the door to this area. I found 2 other colas that practically snapped under the weight of the buds and the rest of the flowers are leaning heavily, these are good problems to have, IMO. I spent about 30 minutes tying things up and supporting branches so I shouldn't get hit anymore when I open the door.

Another thing I noticed is the presence of some red hairs on these girls. We're nearing the end but we definitely have a few weeks left.

Lets get to the girls....

Number 1 smells like overripe fruit and skittles, there is also a slight musty/Earthy background aroma as well. Her branches are leaning more and more as these flowers ripen up and the foxtails continue to track back to the light. These plants were only given calmag while I was gone and this one seems to have been the happiest with that.





Number 2 smells creamy (banana?) and ever-so-slightly skunky with a hint of Earth. Her main cola is as thick as a beer can and she's probably the most resinous of the bunch. She's starting to foxtail a bit which is what I expect out of the strains I tent to gravitate towards. This one caught my eye from the very beginning but I'm definitely excited that the others are looking very tempting as well.





Number 3 has some density to her. She smells like equal parts of Earth, stone fruit and skunk and her resin production is solid. I tied her up a bit last week before I left only to find her nearly bent in half when I returned. Her density will probably mean I need to check her top buds for mold but we'll see. Some strains are naturally resistant.






***I am not photographing the same flowers each week on purpose, I'm just photographing whatever is easiest. Sometimes it's the same flower, sometimes it isn't. For instance; I think the cola on number 3 this week looks smaller than last week's update. That's because it's a different cola.

im so jelious god i cant wait to produce buds like that.