Civilization Among The Other Planets

What creates gravity, other than an object having mass? the equation isnt mass=g, its like measuring horsepower, but why is there even an engine?

Why does gravity exist? can gravity be harnessed? Can we replicate it or take the ingredients required and make our own, more powerful?

It seems a true 'anti-gravity' engine would have to be replicating a planet physically, to achieve its own gravitational field.

I have also heard that masses naturally have a negative polarity, but that polarity shifts are not uncommon. Some masses can change their polarity and some masses have a negative core with positive crust.

Has anyone ever heard of a spherical woofer? maybe a resonating frequency could stimulate the magnets to generate a field and if negatively charged - repel against earth..

Finshaggy said:

If you mean ONLY near the crust. and yes agreed. In the core, complete BULL SHIT. Your not getting out of that with a big magnet. YOU CAN'T. TOO MCUH DAMN...WHAT???...GRAVITY.

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Ok...so based on this, would you assert that if a planet had the same intensified amount of gravity on its surface, as much as the earth does in it's core, that no magnet could overcome it on said surface?

Finshaggy said:

The magnet argument WAS NOT MINE whatever retard said magnetism is stronger than gravity did.

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if a magnet can lift a piece of metal in the opposite direction as gravity, then the magnet is stronger than the gravity. but you could also say gravity is stronger if the magnet is really weak. it depends on the situation.

They said magnets can disrupt the earth gravitational field.

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who did?

EVERYONE PLEASE STOP TAKING ME OUT OF CONTEXT.

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where did we take you out of context?

THENUMBER1022 said:

It seems a true 'anti-gravity' engine would have to be replicating a planet physically, to achieve its own gravitational field.

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You are describing a diametric drive. That would be the "holy grail" of space propulsion.

Has anyone ever heard of a spherical woofer? maybe a resonating frequency could stimulate the magnets to generate a field and if negatively charged - repel against earth..

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My ex has an awesomely obese dog ...
cheers 'neer

cannabineer said:

My ex has an awesomely obese dog ...
cheers 'neer

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LOL ten characters

haha. sonic woofer, that is.

The diametric drive needs to be further investigated. I have heard reports of people getting scary close to successful, and neighbors 5 miles away hearing a low pitch rumble during testing. They always claim men pop out from behind bushes in suits and glasses, take all they can and disappear.

First pot-head attempt, who's with me?

I'm down, l can be a MacGuyver smoker when needed all l need to make such a drive is some tin foil, a magnet, some copper wire, a sprite bottle, and an apple

A former colleague, expatriate Russian (back when it was still CCCP) described an acoustic experiment he witnessed. They built a 100-foot circular resonator, essentially a giant police whistle, and blew across its slit with an air source worthy of a wind tunnel.
The thing achieved about 200 decibels at ~7 Hz before shaking itself into cinderblock dust. That'll l'arn those Scully&Mulder wannabees.
cheers 'neer

LightningMcGreen said:

I'm down, l can be a MacGuyver smoker when needed all l need to make such a drive is some tin foil, a magnet, some copper wire, a sprite bottle, and an apple

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Duct tape. The conquest of the Universe also requires duct tape.
cheers 'neer

THENUMBER1022 said:

What creates gravity, other than an object having mass?

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i dont know

the equation isnt mass=g, its like measuring horsepower, but why is there even an engine?

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its true distance is also a factor, but the distance doesnt create the gravity. the effect gravity has on objects just changes as distance is changed. the gravity will still be there even though it isnt affecting anything.

Why does gravity exist? can gravity be harnessed? Can we replicate it or take the ingredients required and make our own, more powerful?

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we dont know. we dont know. i dont know, and i doubt it

It seems a true 'anti-gravity' engine would have to be replicating a planet physically, to achieve its own gravitational field.

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it already has its own gravitational field. and making it stronger will only make it pull or get pulled by objects harder, making it a 'more-gravity' engine

I have also heard that masses naturally have a negative polarity, but that polarity shifts are not uncommon. Some masses can change their polarity and some masses have a negative core with positive crust.

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you are probably referring to antimatter. i saw something one time where they did an experiment with a vacuum. i dont remember how it worked though. something about even with a total vacuum, there are antimatter particles coming in and out of existence constantly. they only survive for a tiny fraction of a second then disappear. i wish i could remember how they did it and what it was about

Has anyone ever heard of a spherical woofer? maybe a resonating frequency could stimulate the magnets to generate a field and if negatively charged - repel against earth..

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yes but the problem is magnets dont work for very long distances. so you would need the electromagnet that isnt attached to the ship to sort of move along with the ship as it goes. unless it was attached somehow, they would just repel and it would fall out of the sky. but also if they are attached, the magnetism wont move the ship. i think they should use a magnetic levitation system where it catches up to speed horizontally on earth(not too fast so the ppl dont die from g force). then once up to speed, slowly inclines up(again, not too quickly because of g force) and shoots it into space. no need for rockets except for those small rocket boosters they use in space to adjust their position

LightningMcGreen said:

I know when l first read about it/watched vids, it absolutely blew me away. I read Physics of the Impossible, and currently on Hyperspace. Even though l don't get the mathmatics, they dumb it down enough for me to get the basic idea, which l find mind boggling lol as if all of science fiction is slowly turning into science reality

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id like to recommend these books to you. i liked them a lot.
How we decide
Napoleons Buttons

the second one was especially cool. it explains how all the atomic structures work in as simple terms as possible. each chapter is about one substance, like rubber or silk, and tells you the history of it, why it has the properties it does, and how it changed the world.

Finshaggy said:

NOT YOU. I'm not trying to say anything against anyone except those specific 2 guys. Luger and Mindphuk. They are being like that.

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Why are you so angry? cannabineer posted rebuttals to your incorrect assessment of physics just as much as I did.

You can't say that you were right but just "using the wrong words" when in fact the problem I was pointing out was that you were using the wrong words. I'm not sure you even know why you are arguing with me. I haven't said anything controversial, I was merely trying to get you to stop saying incorrect things about science like some theories are proven and are now fact or that I need to prove Newton was correct about gravity. I can't cite evidence until you are clear what it is exactly that I am wrong about. I guess you are unwilling to try to start over and hold a normal adult conversation and you feel it necessary to throw around personal insults. Just be aware that your negative remarks reflect more on you and the weakness of your position.

Luger187 said:

id like to recommend these books to you. i liked them a lot.
How we decide
Napoleons Buttons

the second one was especially cool. it explains how all the atomic structures work in as simple terms as possible. each chapter is about one substance, like rubber or silk, and tells you the history of it, why it has the properties it does, and how it changed the world.

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Thanks for the reccomendation...l've always had a love for science, especially physics, but l severely lack the capacity for the mathmatics lol have you read Hawking's A Briefe History of Time? Seemed compelling, it was on the to-get list, but didn't know how in depth or complicated it was

mindphuk said:

Why are you so angry? cannabineer posted rebuttals to your incorrect assessment of physics just as much as I did.

You can't say that you were right but just "using the wrong words" when in fact the problem I was pointing out was that you were using the wrong words. I'm not sure you even know why you are arguing with me. I haven't said anything controversial, I was merely trying to get you to stop saying incorrect things about science like some theories are proven and are now fact or that I need to prove Newton was correct about gravity. I can't cite evidence until you are clear what it is exactly that I am wrong about. I guess you are unwilling to try to start over and hold a normal adult conversation and you feel it necessary to throw around personal insults. Just be aware that your negative remarks reflect more on you and the weakness of your position.

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Quote him proving me wrong. I didn't notice. I noticed you being a dick for sure though. I'm not angry, just not going to let you make me as stupid as you. And I'm not gonna take your "higher than thou" insults "I hope my children are educated better than you" "What school did you go too."

Fuck you, your stuck in miracle science world like I said. Your science is the science of a perfect flawless people. GET REAL, that's not the world.

LightningMcGreen said:

Thanks for the reccomendation...l've always had a love for science, especially physics, but l severely lack the capacity for the mathmatics lol have you read Hawking's A Briefe History of Time? Seemed compelling, it was on the to-get list, but didn't know how in depth or complicated it was

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i read it a few years ago but i dont remember much at all from it. i dont think it was all math stuff or anything. just go to the book store and flip through it to see what kind of stuff it has in it.
i have a bookmark section on my computer with a list of books i want to get. i have a stack of like 10 books to read on my desk and like 15 more i still want to order haha.
i wish someone made a strain of pot that doesnt make you forget shit as you read it. its so much harder to get through a book high than sober. but i think i heard one time that memory is connected to the endocannabanoid system so pretty much all weed is going to affect it. idk if its true or not though

Finshaggy said:

Quote him proving me wrong. I didn't notice. I noticed you being a dick for sure though. I'm not angry, just not going to let you make me as stupid as you. And I'm not gonna take your "higher than thou" insults "I hope my children are educated better than you" "What school did you go too."

Fuck you, your stuck in miracle science world like I said. Your science is the science of a perfect flawless people. GET REAL, that's not the world.

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Mp, does he remind you of anyone?

Luger187 said:

i read it a few years ago but i dont remember much at all from it. i dont think it was all math stuff or anything. just go to the book store and flip through it to see what kind of stuff it has in it.
i have a bookmark section on my computer with a list of books i want to get. i have a stack of like 10 books to read on my desk and like 15 more i still want to order haha.
i wish someone made a strain of pot that doesnt make you forget shit as you read it. its so much harder to get through a book high than sober. but i think i heard one time that memory is connected to the endocannabanoid system so pretty much all weed is going to affect it. idk if its true or not though

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Hahaha yeah l know what you mean. I know personally since l became a heavy, daily smoker, l have the hardest times remembering the smallest, dumbest shit. Constantly forgetting where l put my keys, l could start an article on something l find deeply interesting, but read an entire paragraph and forget everything it said by the time l got to the end, stuff like that lol. But l've had to go sober for a little while, going on almost 4 weeks now, and though it should be flushed from my system, l've only noticed a small difference in the attention span. Maybe just the mind wandering the weed causes is the problem, like be fixing my playstation or something but my mind totally be somewhere else, and then just ask myself "what the hell was l just doing?"

I don't mind though, cause l'm still able to absorb information as long as l read and re-read it enough times...can't wait for the next time l'm able to spark up, seein all these pics of peoples grows is makin me weed horny haha

LightningMcGreen said:

Hahaha yeah l know what you mean. I know personally since l became a heavy, daily smoker, l have the hardest times remembering the smallest, dumbest shit. Constantly forgetting where l put my keys, l could start an article on something l find deeply interesting, but read an entire paragraph and forget everything it said by the time l got to the end, stuff like that lol. But l've had to go sober for a little while, going on almost 4 weeks now, and though it should be flushed from my system, l've only noticed a small difference in the attention span. Maybe just the mind wandering the weed causes is the problem, like be fixing my playstation or something but my mind totally be somewhere else, and then just ask myself "what the hell was l just doing?"

I don't mind though, cause l'm still able to absorb information as long as l read and re-read it enough times...can't wait for the next time l'm able to spark up, seein all these pics of peoples grows is makin me weed horny haha

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why did you quit smoking?
ive recently found that reading in the morning is the best. before i smoke i usually put in like 30-60 minutes at least. i remember it better. but since i usually smoke throughout the day, reading later on would be a waste haha

Luger187 said:

why did you quit smoking?
ive recently found that reading in the morning is the best. before i smoke i usually put in like 30-60 minutes at least. i remember it better. but since i usually smoke throughout the day, reading later on would be a waste haha

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Well..let's just say l have a kid with a vindictive, bitchy ex, who thinks it's funny to put me under investigation of a certain agency who deals in "protecting" said child lol...just because she truly thinks its funny, even though they haven't and won't find anything

I did what l had to with them, had some evidence that proved my innocence in her faulty accusation, now just waiting to hear whether it's case closed or not...which, it's been a week tomorrow, and l'm going back to pick up some papers l accidentally left behind, so hopefully l'll know something by then lol

where did he say he quit smoking? I'm too baked to look.

Lugar: they achieved anti-matter by separating atoms with an extremely intense laser

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193019.htm

It only sustained for a few seconds because it was breaking down, it was working its way down the atomic table. But the test proves that they can exist, so they probably do.

It basically proves there are other dimensions, but everyone is skeptical to say it.