Citric acid and tinctures

Ok so I have recently learned that citric acid can decarb weed without heat. So I am wondering if I can us citric acid to make a glycerin tincture without heat. So here is my idea. An ounce or ground Reggie to 12 oz or glycerin, add some citric powder and some lecithin and let it sit for a few days. The only thing I don't know is how much citric acid and glycerin I should add. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
 

USMCgreen

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Try one of these for some help...not sure about the glycerin though.


 

quirk

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Just a heads up USMCgreen, Thread is a year and a half old. Been there, done that.
 

USMCgreen

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Just a heads up USMCgreen, Thread is a year and a half old. Been there, done that.
I know the age of the thread...was just researching and experimenting along with every other person in this world...always be learning, always be resolving, always be creating, always be closing...always be...
 

OldMedUser

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I know the age of the thread...was just researching and experimenting along with every other person in this world...always be learning, always be resolving, always be creating, always be closing...always be...
Interesting stuff about the citric acid. I recently bought some at the drug store so will have to give it a try for edibles.

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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Ok so I have recently learned that citric acid can decarb weed without heat. So I am wondering if I can us citric acid to make a glycerin tincture without heat. So here is my idea. An ounce or ground Reggie to 12 oz or glycerin, add some citric powder and some lecithin and let it sit for a few days. The only thing I don't know is how much citric acid and glycerin I should add. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
I have training in chemistry. I have never heard of this procedure in this context or any other. I worry that this is a hoax on the scale of “ microwave your phone in order to recharge it.”
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I have training in chemistry. I have never heard of this procedure in this context or any other. I worry that this is a hoax on the scale of “ microwave your phone in order to recharge it.”
Addendum. The sure way to decarb is time x heat. I’ve found 110 degrees C for ten minutes works.
 

OldMedUser

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I have training in chemistry. I have never heard of this procedure in this context or any other. I worry that this is a hoax on the scale of “ microwave your phone in order to recharge it.”
My post secondary education is in chemistry too and we used citric acid to do a vacuum distillation of nicotine from tobacco then identify with electrophoresis.

I could see it working ok and have plenty of spare pot to try it with.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
My post secondary education is in chemistry too and we used citric acid to do a vacuum distillation of nicotine from tobacco then identify with electrophoresis.

I could see it working ok and have plenty of spare pot to try it with.
You could be right. I never did the experiment.
 

USMCgreen

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I have read study data that 300 degrees for 15 minutes gives the maximum amount of decarb with the least amount of degradation.
 

DarkWeb

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I have done this. Unless you like the taste of citric acid it's tough to blend in.....I had the intentions of maybe a salad dressing or marinade. I did a citric basil tequila beef jerky.........it was ok, not as tasty as lime juice in the same recipe but the slight herb taste was nice. For the amount you'd want for flavor you wouldn't feel it but I could have done it wrong or maybe a different recipe would be good to try. I still have a jar of it maybe I'll try something.
 
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OldMedUser

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I have read study data that 300 degrees for 15 minutes gives the maximum amount of decarb with the least amount of degradation.
Link? How do you make sure the pot is evenly heated to that temp? Spreading out on a cookie sheet will evap most terpenes and esters off the pot.

I recently decarbed an oz of bud but double wrapped it in two layers of sealed tin foil then poked a temp probe into the middle of the pot. Once the temp hit 250F I held it there for 30 min then shut off the oven and let it cool to room temp before taking it out then immediately mixed it with ISO to make RSO for the wife. Very little is lost that way and you can tell as you barely smell a thing in the kitchen from it.

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The next batch I think I'll make the oil first then decarb that in the oven at 300F for 15-30 min. Rick Simpson recommends that method.

 

USMCgreen

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It was some study that cited several other studies. I will have to research again and find it. They decarbed at multiple different temps for multiple different amounts of time and then tested with gas chromatography to see the amount of cannabinoids that decarbed in the process...like I have said on other threads I am all about experimenting.
 

Tejashidrow

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No.
Do your citric acid decarb first, then after it’s done add that to glycerin.
This decarb method is a alternative method,?and works just as well as heat. The only draw back is the sour taste, but I mix mine into gummies, and it works great!!!
Fantastic terp profiles.
 
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