ChilLED or Kind layout.

Xcoregamerskillz

Xcoregamerskillz

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Hey, guys, sorry if this is a repost, but I searched and couldn't find what I'm looking for.

Wondering if anyone can tell me, or post a pic, of the layout for ChilLED leds preferably, or KIND layout. I'd like to recreate it if I can. Any help would be great.
 
Xcoregamerskillz

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VegasWinner said:
400w with 8 cobs and two drivers 4 cobs each side 48" long 30" wide
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ChilLED is using PCB's with discrete diodes. Or maybe it is technically a COB, but it looks like an adressable PCB to me. I was wondering about the specific diode layout so I didn't have to guess at spectrum mixing. The Kind looks like it's using a board layout. I could use cobs, but I don't want to, I want to use PCB's with discrete diodes and multiple drivers for control and dimming.

Edit: Were you referring to the older model kind?
 

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CobKits

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just one of many.

theres the spectrum. i dont think if a certain color diode is in any given position in the array that it would make any big difference
 
Xcoregamerskillz

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CobKits said:
just one of many.

theres the spectrum. i dont think if a certain color diode is in any given position in the array that it would make any big difference
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That's probably true, but I'm also not quite experienced enough to do custom mixing. I suppose I could try, but like I said, not quite comfortable doing it. I could just go COB, but I want to do something a little different.
 
Greengenes707

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Xcoregamerskillz said:
Still looking for the diode layout. I suppose I could just decide on my own what to use, but I'd really like to mimic a proven design.
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The first part is dead right...why do you have to do what they do. You can choose your own.

The second part..."mimic a proven design"...What constitutes "proven"? And what came first...the manufactured light of the proof of the concepts in said light?
Did those companies test multiple spectra to then go with the best after rigorous testing to be "proven...NO they didn't. If they say they did...ask for the data of the real test. They release them based on some pseudo science and hunches. Then let their "valued" customers test what they just made and sent to market.

So let's think about what is actually holding you back from making a rough mimic of 30 diodes producing a predominantly R/B spectrum?
30 diodes per cluster at 50w/cluster for chillLED 50w÷30= 1.666w/diode...~555ma/chip.(estimated from the pic you posted above of the cluster)
That could put into circuits a number of ways to get whatever forward voltage you want/need.

And for the final piece of your puzzles to check your work/ideas against what you want it to be...
http://spectra.1023world.net/
 
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Xcoregamerskillz

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Greengenes707 said:
The first part is dead right...why do you have to do what they do. You can choose your own.

The second part..."mimic a proven design"...What constitutes "proven"? And what came first...the manufactured light of the proof of the concepts in said light?
Did those companies test multiple spectra to then go with the best after rigorous testing to be "proven...NO they didn't. If they say they did...ask for the data of the real test. They release them based on some pseudo science and hunches. Then let their "valued" customers test what they just made and sent to market.

So let's think about what is actually holding you back from making a rough mimic of 30 diodes producing a predominantly R/B spectrum?
30 diodes per cluster at 50w/cluster for chillLED 50w÷30= 1.666w/diode...~555ma/chip.(estimated from the pic you posted above of the cluster)
That could put into circuits a number of ways to get whatever forward voltage you want/need.

And for the final piece of your puzzles to check your work/ideas against what you want it to be...
http://spectra.1023world.net/
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What I meant by proven is exactly what you said. people are using these successfully.

And what holds me back from picking my own array is that I don't have any experience making a multiple LED array for growing. I could use white, but I'd like to do something with individual spectra control, and dimming.

I could use just white, I suppose, but I don't see why I would.
 
CobKits

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what do you mean by successfully?
one might argue that successful is measured by some objective yardstick, like efficiency, yield, etc.

most any light source will successfully grow fully developed plants
 
Xcoregamerskillz

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CobKits said:
what do you mean by successfully?
one might argue that successful is measured by some objective yardstick, like efficiency, yield, etc.

most any light source will successfully grow fully developed plants
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I mean getting comparable yields to other light sources
 
CobKits

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so you got some links in mind? havent seen a good side-by-side or gpw on the lights youre looking at emulating
 
Xcoregamerskillz

Xcoregamerskillz

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Can I just ask why you're trying to get me to do it your way? All I said was I wanted to try doing an RB DIY, and you've done nothing but tell me not to. Why? I'm not hurting anyone trying to do this. all I wanted was some help picking out diodes because I don't feel like using COB's
 
BM9AGS

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Xcoregamerskillz said:
Can I just ask why you're trying to get me to do it your way? All I said was I wanted to try doing an RB DIY, and you've done nothing but tell me not to. Why? I'm not hurting anyone trying to do this. all I wanted was some help picking out diodes because I don't feel like using COB's
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You can talk to cutter or timber for cree and osram monos. Otherwise chilled has diy kits. Which is your simplest option
 
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Nobodies trying to get you do anything you don't want to do. They are just subtly mentioning that those lights are pretty bad, and you could do much better if you wanted. Either by using cobs or by using better diodes and designing your own RB. Why copy an inferior design?
 
CobKits

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Xcoregamerskillz said:
Can I just ask why you're trying to get me to do it your way?
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im not. im trying to find out why you want to do it your way. do you have any compelling reasons why the options youre seeking to emulate are better than any others? you could do your own thing with any number of techs and get similar results

if you want chillled he sells the boards by themselves.....
 
Xcoregamerskillz

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And I'm asking why it's inferior. COB kits, in particular, has asked me to post links to grows, which I will do when I'm off work, but hasn't posted anything of his own. All I asked for was help picking diodes, and there are arrays that work that I want to emulate. Also, I don't really want to buy the ChilLED DIY kit, I know it's simpler, but I have my reasons.
 
Xcoregamerskillz

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CobKits said:
im not. im trying to find out why you want to do it your way. do you have any compelling reasons why the options youre seeking to emulate are better than any others? you could do your own thing with any number of techs and get similar results

if you want chillled he sells the boards by themselves.....
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Want to do it this way for the reasons I have stated. custom color dimming and on/off control, spectra with good results, want to copy because it's easier than trying to work out all the individual details, and obviously LED for power saving and efficacy.
 
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