Child Support Rant

rkm said:

Thats what a trust fund is.

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And in whose name would I put this trust fund? I have no idea what the hell their new names are.

Erniedytn said:

Maybe you could tell me how then? When they were taken from me, I had no contact with them I did not know who was fostering them, and they damn sure aren't going to tell me WHO adopted them, so how in the hell can I find them? Where do I start? Not to mention they probably have totally different names now.

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The first thing to do is prove to the judge that you are stable. Prove that you are clean and no longer a threat to them. Show that you are gainfully employed with a respectable company. Basically, comply with everything the court said you had to do.

After that, petition for visitation. It wont be easy at this point, but certainly not impossible. The court is not going to make it easy for you, they gave you a chance and you did not comply so they are going to be very wary of you.

As far as the name on the trust fund...Until then put it in their given names, with their SSN it will make it to them.

Erniedytn said:

I had to hire a lawyer in Ohio to take the case because it has now been handed over to that state.

Unfortunately I have no idea where my kids are now, but hopefully one day they will look me up. If I could I would look them up myself.

Don't get me wrong everybody, I know that the reason they took them was justified, and I was in no shape to take care of them. But I should not have to pay the state back child suport when the kids have been in a new home, seperated at that, since 6/13/03.

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go find them. just to say hello. you have no idea what that would mean to them. each state has different laws regarding this info but you have to at least look into it...

the CS case might have been bound over to Ohio but criminal cases might not have been relinquished. you need to make sure that you don't have any outstanding warrants in GA, they have really tightened things up here... just saying, be diligent, don't pay a lawyer and put it on cruise control.






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rkm said:

The first thing to do is prove to the judge that you are stable. Prove that you are clean and no longer a threat to them. Show that you are gainfully employed with a respectable company. Basically, comply with everything the court said you had to do.

After that, petition for visitation. It wont be easy at this point, but certainly not impossible. The court is not going to make it easy for you, they gave you a chance and you did not comply so they are going to be very wary of you.

As far as the name on the trust fund...Until then put it in their given names, with their SSN it will make it to them.

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So you're telling me that I should go the GA, petition the original judge, and try to convince him that I am stable enough to visit my children? Then, if (and that is a very big if) he says "OK you can see them" (which I do not see how because the state is no longer involved)I have to get approval from the new adopted parents saying that it is OK for me to visit. Then these new parents have to explain to my kids who I am and why they live with them? You have obviousley never had any dealings with the Department of Family and Children services........

The trust fund idea just might work though. I'll have to look into that.

7xstall said:

the CS case might have been bound over to Ohio but criminal cases might not have been relinquished. you need to make sure that you don't have any outstanding warrants in GA, they have really tightened things up here... just saying, be diligent, don't pay a lawyer and put it on cruise control.






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I have actually served my time for all outstanding warrants in GA. It was during Christmas '01. It sucked but all that is taken care of.

Erniedytn said:

You have obviousley never had any dealings with the Department of Family and Children services........

The trust fund idea just might work though. I'll have to look into that.

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I used to work for them.

rkm said:

I used to work for them.

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What state?

Erniedytn said:

What state?

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KY.

All states have different laws and such, but they all follow the basic principal of keeping kids safe and cared for.

rkm said:

The first thing to do is prove to the judge that you are stable. Prove that you are clean and no longer a threat to them. Show that you are gainfully employed with a respectable company. Basically, comply with everything the court said you had to do.

After that, petition for visitation. It wont be easy at this point, but certainly not impossible. The court is not going to make it easy for you, they gave you a chance and you did not comply so they are going to be very wary of you.

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So has this ever been done in the state of Kentucky?

Erniedytn said:

So has this ever been done in the state of Kentucky?

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I dont know of any specific cases that are similar to yours. But I used my access to the computer systems as an advantage to educate myself on how I should go about getting what I wanted. I read many case files and applied what I learned from them to win my case. But, I did see alot where the social workers would recommend to the court that if the parent/s did rehab, got employment or what ever the situation was, they as representatives of the state would not have a problem in reinstating visitation. I usually did not read many case files that related to drug use since that was not an issue in my case, but I did read some that sounded interesting. With this access, I also had access to the County Attorneys systems as well as we supported their case workers which is where I spent most of my time.

I could see where this would work if the case was still on-going, but they were adopted out over 4 years ago...do you really think I would stand a chance of this working?

Erniedytn said:

I could see where this would work if the case was still on-going, but they were adopted out over 4 years ago...do you really think I would stand a chance of this working?

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How do you know if you dont at least try. I have seen where visitation was revoked longer than that and eventually the bio parents got to at least visit with them. Getting them back for good would probably be very difficult, but I am sure it has been done. As far as the adoptive parents are concerned, they can fight it all they want but if you have a strong case and you are modal citizen in society and the judge approves of your actions, the adoptive parents cant say a word. All they know is that you are a meth user, I am pretty certain they have not been following your actions on becoming a productive member of society. For all we or they know, you have spent the last 4 years getting yourself together to become a responsible parent again.

dude the adoptive parents would allow it??

i give that a 2% chance of happening at this point.

good luck E, everyone makes mistakes, drugs can grab you by the neck and never let go.

E, you should listen to RKM, he speaks with wisdom and caring. The goal is worth the journey.

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I have to clear one hurdle at a time here, and getting this BS child support off my back is priority #1. After that has settled I will look into at least maybe being able to see my kids, but that too will cost money, and I am not rich by any means.

Erniedytn said:

My daughter was 18 months old and my son was 6 months old.

All right except for the fact that my ex has absolutely nothing to do with it. The state is trying to get me for back child support they say I owe AFTER the children were adopted out.

All you people saying be a man...re read the thread from the beginning. I have not tried to get out of anything. I am more than willing to pay what I owe while the children were in protective custody. I don't owe them shit after the kids were adopted out to their new families.

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i was on your side trying to defend you. re read my post.

rkm said:

True, but the state took his kids for his meth use. He implied that the state wanted him to do things and kept stacking things up on him. The fact is, the state is in charge, he must comply with the requests. He gave up and moved. He did not comply with the states requests and the state was not going to send children back into a house were meth was known to be used. I have very little sympathy for him in this case. The judge gave him a course of action to take to get his kids back and he failed to follow the orders. Very simple. I would do the same if I was a judge.

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i agree with you partially. i feel he is responsible up to the point where his parental rights were taken. he owes up to that point. but if the state TOOK the kids. made them THEIRS why should he still pay for them. in the states eyes he is no longer the parent. and to top it off they were legally adopted. yet he still pays. he owes the back payment for the time he was still their parent.


meth is a terrible drug. it almost got me. it's good to hear that everyone came out alive at least. i've seen much worse.

all respect

fdd2blk said:

i was on your side trying to defend you. re read my post.

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Oh no doubt Fdd...I wasn't arguing with you, just helping you understand that my ex had nothing to do with it, which makes the state look even more foolish.

Meth is indeed a terrible drug, it took a whole year of my life and flushed it down the toilet. I'm glad to be off of it.

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Oh no doubt Fdd...I wasn't arguing with you, just helping you understand that my ex had nothing to do with it, which makes the state look even more foolish.

Meth is indeed a terrible drug, it took a whole year of my life and flushed it down the toilet. I'm glad to be off of it.

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it took 7 of mine. it took a year to clear my head of the flashbacks and paranoia. spent 6 months in rehab. i look back and wonder "why?". it's Satan in a bag.

I still get the paranoia every now and then, like I feel I need to constantly look over my shoulder. Also if I just think about taking a hit of that shit, my hair stands on end and I get chill bumps. I absolutely hate that shit.