CHEMTRAILS: Weather Modification or Population Control?

NoDrama

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no ...an example would be your heading determining your altitude when flying VFR , but that is not done by ATC it is actual done by the pilot
So If Im flying my plane at 8,000 feet and all of a sudden drop to 1,000 feet by an airport, no one will say anything to me?
 

londonfog

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So If Im flying my plane at 8,000 feet and all of a sudden drop to 1,000 feet by an airport, no one will say anything to me?
By you even asking that question lets me know you are somewhat clueless as to WTF you are talking about. Flying near an airport falls under controlled airspace restrictions.
 

god1

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Go fly in S California and see if tower will give you permission to do as you please.
I said "uncontrolled" as in no ATC. Many, many years ago, I use to fly "bug smashers" up and down the central coast and into the valley. No tower controlled stuff then. Same with most remote areas of the country. Most practice areas are in uncontrolled areas.

Not true in your area?
 

NoDrama

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By you even asking that question lets me know you are somewhat clueless as to WTF you are talking about. Flying near an airport falls under controlled airspace restrictions.
So there are restrictions to your altitude, speed, and direction? Cuz you just said you could fly anywhere you wanted to without any limits as long as you can see good. Now you are contradicting yourself. So what is it with VFR unlimited flight, or limited flight? Can't have it both ways.
 

NoDrama

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I said "uncontrolled" as in no ATC. Many, many years ago, I use to fly "bug smashers" up and down the central coast and into the valley. No tower controlled stuff then. Same with most remote areas of the country. Most practice areas are in uncontrolled areas.

Not true in your area?
So you were uncontrolled and could go anywhere, at any speed at any altitude without restriction? Please tell me that is true.
 

londonfog

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So there are restrictions to your altitude, speed, and direction? Cuz you just said you could fly anywhere you wanted to without any limits as long as you can see good. Now you are contradicting yourself. So what is it with VFR unlimited flight, or limited flight? Can't have it both ways.
are you dumb or stupid ? do you understand what a controlled airspace is as opposed to an area which is not. Different set of rules. You sure you flown before ?
 

NoDrama

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are you dumb or stupid ? do you understand what a controlled airspace is as opposed to an area which is not. Different set of rules. You sure you flown before ?
So what you are saying is that "uncontrolled " airspace is limited? In other words, it doesn't encompass the entire world?

Im sorry if you can't keep your argument on the same track and have to switch gears so much. Not really though.
 

londonfog

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So what you are saying is that "uncontrolled " airspace is limited? In other words, it doesn't encompass the entire world?

Im sorry if you can't keep your argument on the same track and have to switch gears so much. Not really though.
You have two people telling you how wrong you are, but yet you fight knowledge.
Dreaming that you flew an aircraft does not make one a pilot.
 

NoDrama

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You have two people telling you how wrong you are, but yet you fight knowledge.
Dreaming that you flew an aircraft does not make one a pilot.
Do either of you two understand what perpendicular means? It means the paths WILL MEET at a 90 degree angle. So you are saying that you can jump in a plane, fly it due north at 10,000 feet at the exact same time a 747 heavy is at 10,000 feet flying due east in a perpendicular path and everything is perfectly normal and that it happens all the time.
 

Harrekin

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Do either of you two understand what perpendicular means? It means the paths WILL MEET at a 90 degree angle. So you are saying that you can jump in a plane, fly it due north at 10,000 feet at the exact same time a 747 heavy is at 10,000 feet flying due east in a perpendicular path and everything is perfectly normal and that it happens all the time.
They think flying perpendicular means your view looking up from the ground...
 

god1

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So you were uncontrolled and could go anywhere, at any speed at any altitude without restriction? Please tell me that is true.

Are you a pilot? If so what did you train in and where did you train, (as in practice time)?

Not trying to be an ass, but yes, uncontrolled air space is non tower controlled. There are certainly FAA rules, but no tower contact.

Fast, haha, how fast do you go in a 152?
 

NoDrama

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They think flying perpendicular means your view looking up from the ground...
One of them was telling me about his bug smasher ( its a plane that doesn't fly very high). I am supposed to believe that a bug smasher can make persistent contrails I guess. The other one keeps telling me that its no limit flying out there, as long as you aren't in controlled airspace you can do as you please.
 

god1

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Do either of you two understand what perpendicular means? It means the paths WILL MEET at a 90 degree angle. So you are saying that you can jump in a plane, fly it due north at 10,000 feet at the exact same time a 747 heavy is at 10,000 feet flying due east in a perpendicular path and everything is perfectly normal and that it happens all the time.

Dude, you changed the discussion.
 

londonfog

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Do either of you two understand what perpendicular means? It means the paths WILL MEET at a 90 degree angle. So you are saying that you can jump in a plane, fly it due north at 10,000 feet at the exact same time a 747 heavy is at 10,000 feet flying due east in a perpendicular path and everything is perfectly normal and that it happens all the time.
OMG. Now you telling on yourself. You don't fly.
Flying VFR you would not be at 10,000 feet. It would be 10,500 or 9,500.
Your heading would determine your altitude. Both these planes have different headings.
Stop faking. not looking well for you right now.

and that Boeing would be flying IFR
 

god1

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What is the thread about? We aren't talking about any aircraft that can't make Contrails, so pretty much only talking about Jet aircraft here.

To be honest I was applying a generic answer to your statement about the ATC. I'm not trying to argue anything re the chemtrails.
 
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