Chemist77 315 watt CDL grow

TheChemist77

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i have 3, 315 watt cdl's over a 4ftx 6ft table, actual grow area is a few inches shy of 4x6.. i try to keep the lamps about 2ft from canopy..

the veg closet is 3ft x 7 ft in it a 36 site clone king and a 2ftx4ft f&d table.covered by a 400 watt mh and a 150 watt 6500k cfl. the home built cloner is in a 3ftx3ft area that will get a door put on and in time will be a mega garden(2ftx2ft f&d by hydrofarm) for creating s1's and breeding..that area is also covered by a 150 watt cfl.. in the main veg i may replace the 400 watt mh with a 315 watt cmh once the new seedlings show sex..so far it looks like 1 of the 2 purple#1's are female, the papaya i think is male, the 2 top 44, 1 big bomb, and 1 super bud are all feminized seeds..all need time to be mature enough to clone...
 
GroErr

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TheChemist77 said:
i have 3, 315 watt cdl's over a 4ftx 6ft table, actual grow area is a few inches shy of 4x6.. i try to keep the lamps about 2ft from canopy..
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Thought that table was around there, that's a lot of CMH for 4x 6, you could remove the middle unit and still get great coverage/yield, at 2ft. the spread from those will cover the area well. Would be interesting to see the difference in yield between running 2 and 3 over that area.
 
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GroErr said:
Thought that table was around there, that's a lot of CMH for 4x 6, you could remove the middle unit and still get great coverage/yield, at 2ft. the spread from those will cover the area well. Would be interesting to see the difference in yield between running 2 and 3 over that area.
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we will see in 8 weeks roughly,, last run was under 2 and yield was roughly 800 grams, well over a gpw.. this run 3 lamps, pluss table is covered for bigger roots and a longer veg time.. im hoping to get around 1200 grams.. last run was 36 plants, this run is 30 plants..
i may go back to running only 2 lamps after the testing is complete,, all depends on total yield..that first run was my first try with cmh, i wish i had veged longer and maybe covered the table, now im getting to know how the plants respond to the lamps better,, so i should get better and better if all goes well..
i highly doubt the 1,000 watt hps will yield as well as the cmh's but to get reliable results i got to try and see what happens..
 
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Will be interesting to see what the weight is, your grow's the first I've seen running close to 1000w of these 315's, should be a good haul for sure :)
 
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Looking good, they should fill that space well once they're flipped. Not much for pruning myself, only enough to maintain airflow/circulation and avoid mould issues later. Nice stack of seeds!
 
TheChemist77

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if 112 grams= 1 qp, 1 qp sells for $1,000(and thats a very good price)
448 grams= 1lb, 1lb=$4,000 or say 3,500 w/ discount for buying bulk,
800 grams= 1lb,3qp, + 15 grams,,, equates to roughly,,$6,500 per run under 2 315 watt cmh, which easily pays off the lamps, 500 a piece,4 lamps=2grand, electric bill= $400 a month,2 months=$800, nutrients,water,rockwool, miscalanious =$150.00 per run.
$2,950.00 cost for the 1st run, $6,500.00 - 2950=$3,540.oo pure profit, every run after lights paid off=$5,540.oo profit per run...

id say these lamps are a good investment!!!

any comments?? whats your price per qp? or lb?
 
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Our prices up here have always been lower. I have one buddy who takes QP's of whatever I don't use at $600 year round which is a decent price up here. Regardless, the investment pays off quick on these, a couple of rounds at worst and they're paid off. Then 2-3 times the bulb life, lower hydro bills and better production. Good investment no matter how you look at it.
 
TheChemist77

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GroErr said:
Our prices up here have always been lower. I have one buddy who takes QP's of whatever I don't use at $600 year round which is a decent price up here. Regardless, the investment pays off quick on these, a couple of rounds at worst and they're paid off. Then 2-3 times the bulb life, lower hydro bills and better production. Good investment no matter how you look at it.
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600 a qp? wow, i used to get 400 an ounce,, but now with so many people growing prices have dropped..so $275.00 per ounce, or 1k a qp is a really good price for quality weed.. there is an awfull lot of people growing and selling sub par stuff. being a care giver, im really kind of non profit but i occasionally sell a bit to family.just to help pay bills.
plants flipped to 12/12 on the 1st, ill post pix every week till finish, then dry weight totals..all is well
 
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Yeah, in the good old days most of our guerilla grows ended up south of the border, it was worth it with the difference in price. An oz. still goes for $200-$250 up here but it depends where you are, Toronto area's probably more expensive than other provinces/cities. I grow most of it for myself and a couple of patients, in my age group there's always someone I know who's battling cancer. My buddy takes what's left and that covers the costs which is good enough for me. If I can help a cancer patient that's my reward now. I went through it myself and I'm past the 5-year mark just recently, it's time to give back.. It's my only medicine, no pharma/prescription shit, it works. Cheers.
 
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only 5 days since flip,, im amazed at the growth on these ladies!! they are really filling in..
i had planted some seeds a month or so ago,, i now have 1 female big bomb(really nice structure),2 home grown fantaseed topp 44 females(short n stocky), 2 purple#1's both look to be female but not 100% sure yet(tall n lanky,still green), 1 papaya also not sure on sex, and 1 super bud female by green house seeds,,only 3 weeks old,not mature yet.. i just started spraying several of my strain clone moms with tierista mist to make S1's.. anyone have any experience with the tierista mist? ive always made my own silver spray before so this is new to me..ill post some pix of my veg room and seed moms along with the week 1 pix of flower room..
i have it all set up to take clones for the next run,so NO down time..ill take clones when the flowering room is 5 weeks in, that way clones will have 12 days to root, then 2 weeks to veg and same day i harvest ill clean the room n table, change rez,switch lighting and put in 30 plants for the next run under the 1,000 watt hps.. i also plan to change my veg room lamp from a 400 watt mh to a 315 watt cmh lamp..
 
GroErr

GroErr

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TheChemist77 said:
only 5 days since flip,, im amazed at the growth on these ladies!! they are really filling in..
i had planted some seeds a month or so ago,, i now have 1 female big bomb(really nice structure),2 home grown fantaseed topp 44 females(short n stocky), 2 purple#1's both look to be female but not 100% sure yet(tall n lanky,still green), 1 papaya also not sure on sex, and 1 super bud female by green house seeds,,only 3 weeks old,not mature yet.. i just started spraying several of my strain clone moms with tierista mist to make S1's.. anyone have any experience with the tierista mist? ive always made my own silver spray before so this is new to me..ill post some pix of my veg room and seed moms along with the week 1 pix of flower room..
i have it all set up to take clones for the next run,so NO down time..ill take clones when the flowering room is 5 weeks in, that way clones will have 12 days to root, then 2 weeks to veg and same day i harvest ill clean the room n table, change rez,switch lighting and put in 30 plants for the next run under the 1,000 watt hps.. i also plan to change my veg room lamp from a 400 watt mh to a 315 watt cmh lamp..
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Nice, haven't done any S1's but I may break down and make some to keep a couple of killer strain/phenos I have going. Interested to see how that Tiresias mist works, easy enough to make CS but it's just another thing that'll take some time so if this works as advertised I may just grab some myself. Sounds like you're liking these 315's, I wish I could handle the 4200k in veg I'd grab another light, just don't have the room in the tent or cabinet I veg in.
 
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GroErr said:
Nice, haven't done any S1's but I may break down and make some to keep a couple of killer strain/phenos I have going. Interested to see how that Tiresias mist works, easy enough to make CS but it's just another thing that'll take some time so if this works as advertised I may just grab some myself. Sounds like you're liking these 315's, I wish I could handle the 4200k in veg I'd grab another light, just don't have the room in the tent or cabinet I veg in.
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i called boulder lamp to ask about different kelvin bulbs for my lamps, they said the 3,000k is the only bulb for my lamp.. $80.00 a bulb isnt bad cause it lasts 2-3 years. i thought there was a higher k bulb for veg, guess i was mistaken or is it only for the sun system cmh lamps? im really happy with the lamps so far,,,i considered scrapping the 1k hps comparison run.. but i feel its an important run for the hole comparison test.. w/out it im just comparing the 945 watt cmh to my last 1200 watt 2 600watt hps run, i looked back in my log book and found under the 2 600's i was running skunk#1 and northern lights 36 plants total dry weight yield after 1 week of veg & 8 weeks bloom was 1,447 grams so just over a gpw..looking back my best yield per watt to date was under 1 400hps n 1 400mh over a 4x4 table w 25 misty plants w 1,221 grams 1.5gpw...that was in 2004..
 
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Some nice weights there, will be interesting to see what these 315's pull. If the one you have is a Philips Elite Agro which I'm pretty sure it is, they do have a 4200k bulb. Boulder may not know about it or sell it but they're available. here's a link to it on Growershouse.
 
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