Chemical = more potent?

bluemagicman

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I was wondering, i have heard that using chemical nutes will usually make more potent but harsher smoking buds, however, if you are using a vaporizer does it really matter since only the cannabinoids would be vaporized? what do you guys think? Thanks:joint:
 

RawBudzski

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Not more "Potent" but some ppl who are not vet smokers may thing a bud that is not properly flushed or is BOMB cause its the chems init that gives the head effect. but its not technically more potent
 

GoldenGanja13

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When I was using chems, I would have to flush 9 days before harvest. But properly done every harvest and my smoke burned clean and not harsh.
 

bluemagicman

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Yes, but i was thinking, the point of organics is to feed micro-organisms in the soil so they can produce nutrients, where as with chemicals the nutrients have been pre-produced, but any way, what i was really trying to get at was if you use a vape is there a difference?
 

RawBudzski

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thats what I have been told.. I switched from hydro back to soil simply because my bud from soil comes out Just as potent and normally smells better. hydro yielded more, but if space is no issue. :D
 

bluemagicman

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Well i use organic soil but i go easy on the chemical nutes, 7 drops of 10-15-10 with 1.5 gallons of water, and i foliar feed 2-3 times a week. From all of my research I think the pro's of chemicals are bigger and sometimes more potent buds, Pros of organics are better taste and smell, however I think if like Golden said if you flush properly it would be very hard to tell the diffrience
 

GoldenGanja13

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when I was chemicals in soil I was getting 5-7 oz per plant strong highs potent enough, but when I went organic I got 2-3 oz per plant but way more potent, and flavors I have never had before, plus the high last much longer.

When using chemicals u are flooding the roots and they take up a very small percent of nutrients. When organic, u still use nutrients but the micro beasties are keeping the roots clean and feeding the roots the goods. My plants are so wonderful now that I went organic.

But yeah if you vape it may still be harsh, and crappy flavor.
 

RIXUK

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when I was chemicals in soil I was getting 5-7 oz per plant strong highs potent enough, but when I went organic I got 2-3 oz per plant but way more potent, and flavors I have never had before, plus the high last much longer.

When using chemicals u are flooding the roots and they take up a very small percent of nutrients. When organic, u still use nutrients but the micro beasties are keeping the roots clean and feeding the roots the goods. My plants are so wonderful now that I went organic.

But yeah if you vape it may still be harsh, and crappy flavor.
Not arguing but I wouldnt agree,id say they take up more nutes and this is why they taste mmuch harsher if not flushed correctly...
The other lads post about bigger yield with chemical and the hole idea of hydro is more nutes uptake and bigger/faster/stronger growing plants...
Im no pro on the subject hence me being here but Ive grown mainly hydro/chemical and tried many soil/organic and chemical,to me its all about the flushing..

I have a friend who takes these tablets,he says they make him feel like he on ectasy,the made out of chemical fertilizers so id say on that note not flushing could cause a stronger high be it head or body but with out doubt it will be a harsher smoke...

I tend to pick at my bud threw out the last few weeks,taking spliffs here and there,drying on paper and windowsill,I fo this till Im very happy which is 9/10 a good 8 day in to flush..

I think also moisture in the bud effects the harshness and curing is key with a real good flush,also testing and watching trichicombes threw different stages to determine the high you like the most,this is were when I test threw last few weeks I get exactly the smoke I want ;-)

As I say,not arguing,just giving my opinion on the subject, If less nutes were took up via chemical how is it that the yield is always superior?
 

RIXUK

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And is the consensus that chemical=bigger buds while organics=better taste?
I would agree.
Being that you smoke method is vaporizer,I do believe you will most definitly notice a difference between the two but I would recommend you try both,as much as I like organic I still grow Hydro purely on yield sizes and If you smoked in spliffs Id bet youd find it real hard to notice the difference,being vaporizer you may tell straight away,if its harshness your worried about,dont worry,go hydro and flush and cure correctly
 

bluemagicman

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I would agree.
Being that you smoke method is vaporizer,I do believe you will most definitly notice a difference between the two but I would recommend you try both,as much as I like organic I still grow Hydro purely on yield sizes and If you smoked in spliffs Id bet youd find it real hard to notice the difference,being vaporizer you may tell straight away,if its harshness your worried about,dont worry,go hydro and flush and cure correctly
Yeah i have real nice home-made organic soil with cow shit and worm shit and compost, i also use chemicals though, i agree however that molasses and a nice flush and curing process makes the bud great or just okay
 

bluemagicman

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And i don't only use a vape, i was just wondering since the whole point of a vape is to avoid everything except cannabinoids if you would be able to tell the difference because if chems = more potent bud and my theory about the vape is correct, ill stick to chems
 

GoldenGanja13

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Not arguing but I wouldnt agree,id say they take up more nutes and this is why they taste mmuch harsher if not flushed correctly...
The other lads post about bigger yield with chemical and the hole idea of hydro is more nutes uptake and bigger/faster/stronger growing plants...
Im no pro on the subject hence me being here but Ive grown mainly hydro/chemical and tried many soil/organic and chemical,to me its all about the flushing..
As I say,not arguing,just giving my opinion on the subject, If less nutes were took up via chemical how is it that the yield is always superior?
Hmmm well u see ( just chattin open ) when u flood a plant with high doses of chemicals and I mean a very high N-P--K and it only taking up a little of it being it has no choice, and that is why u must set the ph,bongsmilie (OG #18 organic) where was i ?and the plant will excel in yields and sure it will be potent, i know i always grew fire with chems, even the smell is good and u can even bring out more by raising ur lights the last 2 weeks, but organics need a very low NPK and no ph`ing required because of the living soil. The roots will take up everything the plant needs for the life span. The yields of course will be smaller, but the potency can not be matched nor the flavors. This is just simple botany and proven in labs over and over. :eyesmoke: When i went organic, i really uped one in the garden when it came to every stage of growth, potency, flavors and extended time of being high. That is something chems will always lose in and that is the "high Time" .
i respect your views as a fellow bongsmilie
 

GoldenGanja13

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Check this out, these picture's are using Fox Farm Ocean Forest and the whole FF line up including the soluble trio with an extremely high NPK
AS u can see, serious weight is there. Potency was great, people said I had the best around and loved it . Flavors where fine.
 

GoldenGanja13

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Here are a few pics of my organic skills. The weight is much much less, but the potency blows away anything I have done with chems, and the flavors are amazing ! People love my organics much much more because they smoke much much less and the high goes way further. They get more high for the $ through organics.
 

GoldenGanja13

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Going Organic has changed my life. My gardening skills have improved, potency is off the charts, as well as smells and flavors. Gardening is so much easier (once u understand organics). Too each is own (of course) and I have found my way in the garden.
 

bluemagicman

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Thanks Golden those are some nice pics, I just bought some Alaskan fish emulation 5-1-1 says it's organic, any history or experience with this stuff?
 

GoldenGanja13

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I no experience with it as yet. But I read a lot of organic growing (cannabis) mags and one of the ways to make a wonderful tea was to use fish emulsion. If you go organics, do not use chems at all. Also make sure to give them a soaking of compost tea once a week (if possible) or every other week and they will grow like nothing you have ever grown before. I get my tea from my hydro store at $1.75 a gallon. I use a 5 gal water jug and have them fill it up. I used to get from the local nursery at 2.50 a gal.
 
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