iblazethatkush
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Yeah thx. I think I'll keep it. I mean I knew, Vi, would like it. But, I didn't think he would like it this much LoL.The truth irritates the bushies to no end ... doesn't it! Again ... excellent avatar ...
Check out my new avatar, VI
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medicineman
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Yeah, you've definently pissed off the VI monster. He just doesn't get it. The government we have now is a plutocratic fascist state. A government run by the corporations for the corporations and the elites. Workers unite!
iblazethatkush
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Haha nice one.I'm not pissed off at all about your foolish avatar. Remember Blaze, I'm a libertarian thinker and believe in liberty. That liberty would include your God given right to debase yourself anyway you see fit.
Vi
You might be completely delusional, but I give props where props are do on a nice comeback.
ViRedd
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medicineman
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I believe delusional is an understatement.
ViRedd
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The only one delusional here, besides GrowRebel (who is completly fucking lost), is YOU, Med. You are a religious zealot and a bigot. Your religion is Big Government and your sacrament is ever increased taxes. Your bigotry is your hatred toward anyone who attains success, no matter the hard work and sacrifice they expended to get to where they are. You have a form of mental illness, Med, but don't feel bad, you're not alone. That mental illness includes living in the altered state of believing that what belongs to another also belongs to you. Its believing that you have the "right" to someone else's production, even though you haven't earned it, while in turn, being stone-blind to the fact that to gain that "right," you are violating the Natural rights of another to life, liberty and property. You want to talk about delusion? Let's talk about DELUSION, big guy.
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medicineman
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How in the hell can you discuss delusion with a delusional person? They just crawl back into their own little world and don't respond, remind you of someone, maybe that guy in the mirror? This right to someone elses production number is wearing thin. I've worked all my life since 15, never took a hand out from anyone, raised 3 kids and have owned 7 homes, 25-30 cars and always had a bank account, a stock account and a savings account. I think you are barking up the wrong tree pal so fuck off.
ViRedd
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Well, kudos to you Med if you've never taken a handout. So, what's your story then? Is it that you just feel the compulsive need to get legislation passed that will take the production of another and give it to someone else who hasn't earned it, even though the final results aren't meant to bolster your own nest? What shall we call THAT type of mental illness, Med? How about Feelgoodism? Or, better yet, we can call it by its proper name ... SOCIALISM. Here's the cure: Borrow against the equity you've built up by owning those seven homes, draw the money out of your bank account, sell all the stocks, then sell all the cars and with the money, just write a check made payable to the United States Treasury Department and send it in.
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medicineman
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You are one funny dude. So helping others is just feelgoodism. I guess you've never helped others without helping yourself along with it, sad sad sad.
pandabear
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helping others should be voluntary. when you are forced to help people, and forced to do this through an inefficient and unfair system, you can see why people would rather do it on their own than get the senators and congressmen's greedy hands on it. so they force it upon u waste half of it, sprinkle it on the some of the people that really need it, then the rest in sucked up by the people using loopholes and ones that don't need it, so if you are truly compassionate and want to help others who are unfortunate, having the government do it is not the way to go because they are not administering the money correctly, fairly or ethically because they like to rather use it to help them get votes. while single moms out there have 2 jobs and tough lives.
I mean its like me tellin you to donate to the the family whose house burned down but I take the money you give me and spend 80% of it on advertising that me Pandbear is helping these people, then I give them 20% and im a hero. but in reality I am a crook. that's why I just assumed you were one of the loopholers, but if your not, don't you at least agree that they need to reform hand out so they get to the people that really need it and target the money to help lift people to become self sufficient rather than dependent on the gov for the rest of their lives?
medicineman
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Hey, I agree that our congress is fucked and they waste money like a drunken sailor. There needs to be a lot of changes to the social programs, but you can't just eliminate them like the right wingers want to do. what was the main theme the repukes had in the debate when it came to the economy, cut entitlements. They didn't mention cutting the war contractors budgets or the Pentagons budget, just cut entitlements. Cut off the foodstamp program that although abused, feeds many otherwise hungry children. Cut off medicare and privatize SS so wall street can get their grubby hands on the money. Yeah there is some good ideas, NOT. Reform them and streamline them, but you can't just throw poor people under the bus.
7xstall
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didn't Hitler want to take over the world or something like that? i mean, i thought he wanted to create one central government to rule all of Europe (too bad for him they voluntarily submitted to this half a century later! lol - eurofools.).
i thought Hitler had the fire started by SS operatives, didn't some angry muslims fly into the trade centers? it's hard to imagine Bush and Bin Laden knocking down a couple brewskis (maybe firing up a bowl or two?) at the town tavern and hatching the 9/11 plot together.
wasn't Hitler a socialist (Nazi party = National Socialist German Workers Party), hell bent on forcing everyone to contribute to the greater good of the fatherland?
didn't Hitler openly call for a Lincoln-esque destruction of all state governments in order to create one, super-sized central government that control everything?
wasn't Hitler a brilliant politician?
wasn't Hitler a very effective military leader?
if you really look into this, no matter how much you dislike Bush, you'll see that your new avatar is simply wrong.
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i thought Hitler had the fire started by SS operatives, didn't some angry muslims fly into the trade centers? it's hard to imagine Bush and Bin Laden knocking down a couple brewskis (maybe firing up a bowl or two?) at the town tavern and hatching the 9/11 plot together.
wasn't Hitler a socialist (Nazi party = National Socialist German Workers Party), hell bent on forcing everyone to contribute to the greater good of the fatherland?
didn't Hitler openly call for a Lincoln-esque destruction of all state governments in order to create one, super-sized central government that control everything?
wasn't Hitler a brilliant politician?
wasn't Hitler a very effective military leader?
if you really look into this, no matter how much you dislike Bush, you'll see that your new avatar is simply wrong.
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medicineman
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So thats your great defense of Bush, he's not a socialist? Bush also wants to form Canamerexico, or the NAU. Bush is also in favor of dominant central government, Quote: "It would be a lot easier if this was a dictratorship". I think Bush is undefensable.didn't Hitler want to take over the world or something like that? i mean, i thought he wanted to create one central government to rule all of Europe (too bad for him they voluntarily submitted to this half a century later! lol - eurofools.).
i thought Hitler had the fire started by SS operatives, didn't some angry muslims fly into the trade centers? it's hard to imagine Bush and Bin Laden knocking down a couple brewskis (maybe firing up a bowl or two?) at the town tavern and hatching the 9/11 plot together.
wasn't Hitler a socialist (Nazi party = National Socialist German Workers Party), hell bent on forcing everyone to contribute to the greater good of the fatherland?
didn't Hitler openly call for a Lincoln-esque destruction of all state governments in order to create one, super-sized central government that control everything?
wasn't Hitler a brilliant politician?
wasn't Hitler a very effective military leader?
if you really look into this, no matter how much you dislike Bush, you'll see that your new avatar is simply wrong.
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pandabear
Well-Known Member
there is a very interesting documentary that shows that hitler lost the war because he became so addicted to amphetamines that his doctor would always have available to him. shot up with the needle i might add. over the years hitler couldnt do without the shot and start losin it.
thank god for that doctor cuz i think hes the one who really did hitler in.
thank god for that doctor cuz i think hes the one who really did hitler in.
pandabear
Well-Known Member
dude that was a funny joke if he said that, bush is a real american who values american democracy and hates dictatorships
7xstall
Well-Known Member
i'm just saying that Bush is nothing like Hitler. he's not sending tanks, planes, etc. into Canada or Mexico to accomplish those things... Hitler constantly carpet bombed hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of innocent civilians in urban areas en masse and as a matter of course for his objectives.
saying Bush is like Hitler is silly.
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7xstall
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i've never heard that before. sounds reasonable because he certainly lost the war himself - no one defeated him.
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pandabear
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also for a side note i bet most of you guys who hate bush, like say Mr iblazethatkush dont really have any idea whats goin on in the world and are just regurgitating what they hear. its easy to just hate a white man that has a southern accent without knowing anything about him, but kinda racist if you ask me
pandabear
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Theodor Morell
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Theodor (Theo) Gilbert Morell (July 22, 1886 May 26, 1948) was German dictator Adolf Hitler's personal physician. Morell was well-known in Germany for his unconventional, holistic and alternative treatments.
Although Morell had medical training and was licensed as a general practitioner in Germany long before he met Hitler, following World War II there were investigations into his practice along with interrogation by the Allies and he came to be widely regarded as a quack. Historians have speculated his treatment contributed to Hitler's ill health.
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Hitler was suffering from a skin rash and intestinal gas when, during a party at the Berghof near Berchtesgaden, he first met Morell, who said he could cure him within a year. Morell's wife was unhappy when he accepted the job as Hitler's personal physician. Morell began treating Hitler with various commercial preparations, including a combination of vitamins and E. coli bacteria called Multiflor. Hitler seemed to recover and Morell eventually became a part of Hitler's social inner circle, remaining there until shortly before the war ended. Some historians have attempted to explain this association by citing Morell's reputation in Germany for success in treating syphilis, along with Hitler's own (speculated) fears of the disease which he associated closely with Jews. Other observers have commented on the possibility Hitler had visible symptoms of both Parkinson's disease and syphilis, especially towards the end of the war.
As Hitler's physician Morell was constantly recommended to other members of the Nazi leadership but most of them, including Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler, immediately dismissed him as a quack. As Albert Speer related in his autobiography:
"In 1936, when my circulation and stomach rebelled...I called at Morell's private office. After a superficial examination...Morell prescribed for me his intestinal bacteria, dextrose, vitamins, and hormone tablets." "For safety's sake I afterward had a thorough examination by Professor von Bergmann, the specialist in internal medicine at Berlin University. I was not suffering from any organic trouble, he concluded, but only from nervous symptoms caused by overwork." "I slowed down my pace as best I could and the symptoms abated. To avoid offending Hitler I pretended that I was carefully following Morell's instructions, and since my health improved, I became for a time Morell's showpiece." (Albert Speer, Inside the Third Reich, 1970). In his memoirs, Speer made clear that he didn't consider Morell to be a "quack." Rather, he characterized him as an opportunist who, once he achieved status as Hitler's physician, became extremely careless and lazy in his work, and who was more concerned with money and status rather than actually providing medical assistance.
Goering called Morell Der Reichsspritzenmeister, a nickname that stuck. This term does not have a precise English translation. Among the translations of this nickname are "Herr Reich Injection Master" (Speer, Inside the Third Reich), "The Reich's Injections Impresario" (Junge, Until the Final Hour), and "The Master of the Imperial Needle" (O'Donnell, The Bunker). However this term is translated, its underlying meaning is the same - it implied that Morell always resorted to using injections and drugs when faced with any medical problem, and that he overused these drug injections.
Morell developed a rivalry with Dr. Karl Brandt, who had been attending Hitler since 1933. The two often argued, though Hitler usually sided with Morell. Eva Braun later changed her opinion of Morell, calling his office a "pig sty" and refusing to see him anymore.
In 1939 Morell inadvertently became involved with the forced annexation of Czechoslovakia. The Czechoslovakian president, Emil Hacha, became so scared at Hitler's outburst that he fainted. Morell injected stimulants into Hacha to wake him and although he claimed these were only vitamins, they may have included methamphetamine. Hacha meanwhile soon caved in to Hitler's demands.
Following the July 20, 1944 assassination attempt against Hitler, Morell treated him with topical penicillin, which had only recently been introduced into testing by the U.S. Army. Where he acquired it is unknown and Morell claimed complete ignorance of penicillin when he was interrogated by American intelligence officers after the war. Moreover, when members of Hitler's inner circle were interviewed for the book The Bunker, some claimed Morell owned a significant share in a company fraudulently marketing a product as penicillin.
By April 1945, Hitler was taking 28 different pills a day along with numerous injections (including many of glucose). On April 22, 1945 Hitler dismissed Morell from the Fuhrerbunker in Berlin, saying that he didn't need any more medical help. Nonetheless, Morell left behind a large amount of pre-prepared medicine; during the last week of Hitler's life, they were administered by Dr. Werner Haase and by Heinz Linge, Hitler's valet.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Theodor (Theo) Gilbert Morell (July 22, 1886 May 26, 1948) was German dictator Adolf Hitler's personal physician. Morell was well-known in Germany for his unconventional, holistic and alternative treatments.
Although Morell had medical training and was licensed as a general practitioner in Germany long before he met Hitler, following World War II there were investigations into his practice along with interrogation by the Allies and he came to be widely regarded as a quack. Historians have speculated his treatment contributed to Hitler's ill health.
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[[edit] Hitler's physician
Hitler was suffering from a skin rash and intestinal gas when, during a party at the Berghof near Berchtesgaden, he first met Morell, who said he could cure him within a year. Morell's wife was unhappy when he accepted the job as Hitler's personal physician. Morell began treating Hitler with various commercial preparations, including a combination of vitamins and E. coli bacteria called Multiflor. Hitler seemed to recover and Morell eventually became a part of Hitler's social inner circle, remaining there until shortly before the war ended. Some historians have attempted to explain this association by citing Morell's reputation in Germany for success in treating syphilis, along with Hitler's own (speculated) fears of the disease which he associated closely with Jews. Other observers have commented on the possibility Hitler had visible symptoms of both Parkinson's disease and syphilis, especially towards the end of the war.
As Hitler's physician Morell was constantly recommended to other members of the Nazi leadership but most of them, including Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler, immediately dismissed him as a quack. As Albert Speer related in his autobiography:
"In 1936, when my circulation and stomach rebelled...I called at Morell's private office. After a superficial examination...Morell prescribed for me his intestinal bacteria, dextrose, vitamins, and hormone tablets." "For safety's sake I afterward had a thorough examination by Professor von Bergmann, the specialist in internal medicine at Berlin University. I was not suffering from any organic trouble, he concluded, but only from nervous symptoms caused by overwork." "I slowed down my pace as best I could and the symptoms abated. To avoid offending Hitler I pretended that I was carefully following Morell's instructions, and since my health improved, I became for a time Morell's showpiece." (Albert Speer, Inside the Third Reich, 1970). In his memoirs, Speer made clear that he didn't consider Morell to be a "quack." Rather, he characterized him as an opportunist who, once he achieved status as Hitler's physician, became extremely careless and lazy in his work, and who was more concerned with money and status rather than actually providing medical assistance.
Goering called Morell Der Reichsspritzenmeister, a nickname that stuck. This term does not have a precise English translation. Among the translations of this nickname are "Herr Reich Injection Master" (Speer, Inside the Third Reich), "The Reich's Injections Impresario" (Junge, Until the Final Hour), and "The Master of the Imperial Needle" (O'Donnell, The Bunker). However this term is translated, its underlying meaning is the same - it implied that Morell always resorted to using injections and drugs when faced with any medical problem, and that he overused these drug injections.
Morell developed a rivalry with Dr. Karl Brandt, who had been attending Hitler since 1933. The two often argued, though Hitler usually sided with Morell. Eva Braun later changed her opinion of Morell, calling his office a "pig sty" and refusing to see him anymore.
In 1939 Morell inadvertently became involved with the forced annexation of Czechoslovakia. The Czechoslovakian president, Emil Hacha, became so scared at Hitler's outburst that he fainted. Morell injected stimulants into Hacha to wake him and although he claimed these were only vitamins, they may have included methamphetamine. Hacha meanwhile soon caved in to Hitler's demands.
Following the July 20, 1944 assassination attempt against Hitler, Morell treated him with topical penicillin, which had only recently been introduced into testing by the U.S. Army. Where he acquired it is unknown and Morell claimed complete ignorance of penicillin when he was interrogated by American intelligence officers after the war. Moreover, when members of Hitler's inner circle were interviewed for the book The Bunker, some claimed Morell owned a significant share in a company fraudulently marketing a product as penicillin.
By April 1945, Hitler was taking 28 different pills a day along with numerous injections (including many of glucose). On April 22, 1945 Hitler dismissed Morell from the Fuhrerbunker in Berlin, saying that he didn't need any more medical help. Nonetheless, Morell left behind a large amount of pre-prepared medicine; during the last week of Hitler's life, they were administered by Dr. Werner Haase and by Heinz Linge, Hitler's valet.
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