Chauvin Trial

hanimmal

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- End involuntary taxation..sales tax....voluntary...income tax..involuntary
And why would people not just buy everything on the black market to avoid taxes?

As for the rest (that are not already Democratic platforms too), how do you get those passed in congress?
 

LibertyCap76

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And why would people not just buy everything on the black market to avoid taxes?

As for the rest (that are not already Democratic platforms too), how do you get those passed in congress?
With the two party system, not likely..but i cannot morally vote for the far left nor the far right, both are authoritarian statists, both believe in the power of the state over power of the individual..

I mean is not the Black Market the free market?

Sure, some are traditional democratic stances (not modern democratic stances) and some are Republican stances (again, not modern)..in this day and age we are called "radical" because we are centrists...if people actually look at their beliefs, the vast majority of people are fundementally libertarian, they just pigeonhole themselves with the far left and far right..

We are "Classical Liberals"
 

hanimmal

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With the two party system, not likely..but i cannot morally vote for the far left nor the far right, both are authoritarian statists, both believe in the power of the state over power of the individual..
You mean laws?

I mean is not the Black Market the free market?
Yeah and it also means that the vulnerable people in our societies get taken advantage of on it.
Sure, some are traditional democratic stances (not modern democratic stances) and some are Republican stances (again, not modern)..in this day and age we are called "radical" because we are centrists...if people actually look at their beliefs, the vast majority of people are fundementally libertarian, they just pigeonhole themselves with the far left and far right..

We are "Classical Liberals"
And I am saying that is because "Libertarian" is just a bullshit scam to get people who strongly disagree with the Republicans (who are truly trying to reduce freedoms) not to vote for a Democrat who they may mostly agree with.
 

LibertyCap76

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You mean laws?

Yeah and it also means that the vulnerable people in our societies get taken advantage of on it.
And I am saying that is because "Libertarian" is just a bullshit scam to get people who strongly disagree with the Republicans (who are truly trying to reduce freedoms) not to vote for a Democrat who they may mostly agree with.
Why and how is a political belief a scam? BOTH parties reduce freedoms, BOTH parties are so damn corrupt they no longer represent the people, they represent special interest groups.
 

LibertyCap76

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Why is it the governments responsibility to protect you with regulations in the market, are we not able to think for ourselves?
 

hanimmal

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Why and how is a political belief a scam
Because it's manufactured nonsense that is designed to become a cult. It's no different than anything else that is going on as all these people are getting themselves radicalized online.


BOTH parties reduce freedoms,
I can't think of any that has been placed on me. I have heard people bitching about it for decades and never actually had a freedom taken away from me by the government.


BOTH parties are so damn corrupt they no longer represent the people, they represent special interest groups.
Because you said so?

I call bullshit on your sources of information if you truly believe this. And would recommend checking on AP news to start to see it on something that you really care about to see how far off you are about it.

Why is it the governments responsibility to protect you with regulations in the market, are we not able to think for ourselves?
You mean like saying leaded gasoline can't be sold because it poisoned entire areas by roads? And I have never had to ask the government to do anything I wanted to do outside of things like permits, but that is also long term pollution essentially when people build things so I can see why cities want to be sure what is being left behind when people move/die.
 

hanimmal

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Manufactured? Please elaborate...i mean libertarianism predates both parties...
Sure(I am not looking up how old libertarian party is vs Dem/Rep), but words get hijacked.

The people who want to be all edgy and non conformist needed to be sorted into something else to rally against 'them'. Anything to divide up the only party that is not just legislating for the Wealthy White Heterosexual Male voting base.
 

LibertyCap76

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Sure, but words get hijacked.

The people who want to be all edgy and non conformist needed to be sorted into something else to rally against 'them'. Anything to divide up the only party that is not just legislating for the Wealthy White Heterosexual Male voting base.
" I want gay couples to marry, grow fields of bud and guard it with howitzers from government overreach"

Or " Libertarians want to take over the world and leave you the fuck alone"

Libertarianism in nutshell..look im not trying to sell you anything, you are an individual, you make your own choices, good, bad or indifferent
 

Herb & Suds

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" I want gay couples to marry, grow fields of bud and guard it with howitzers from government overreach"

Or " Libertarians want to take over the world and leave you the fuck alone"

Libertarianism in nutshell..look im not trying to sell you anything, you are an individual, you make your own choices, good, bad or indifferent
Useless thangs like Rand Paul make you all look like fools
 

Fogdog

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Why is it the governments responsibility to protect you with regulations in the market, are we not able to think for ourselves?
So, there is this little thing people have developed over time. Civilization? Ever hear of it?

Probably not.
 
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