Changing nutes

Rocco_sifredrik

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Hi im going to ditch advanced nutrients and go for another brand. I am only doing Bloom base and calmag.

Lucas formula micro Bloom ghe
Hesi Bloom complex
Ghe floranova Bloom

Which One should i go for any recommendations would be great
 

Rurumo

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If you want to stick with GH, I'd skip floranova and go straight to Maxibloom, same exact salts used, just more economical. Works great for a 1 part nutrient. Besides that, a 2 part dry nutrient would give you more control over your NPK. Look into Jack's a/b or Megacrop a/b. They are pretty much identical, but Megacrop makes it easier for new folks to figure out the dosing-they also have an excellent nutrient calculator on their website that you can play with-it works for Jack's too. Good luck and GREAT CHOICE ditching AN, you'll have your best grows ever with any of these.
 

dtracy11191978

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Hi im going to ditch advanced nutrients and go for another brand. I am only doing Bloom base and calmag.

Lucas formula micro Bloom ghe
Hesi Bloom complex
Ghe floranova Bloom

Which One should i go for any recommendations would be great
I've been using Technaflora recipe for success. Check them out.
 

J232

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Jacks and megacrop Arent availible where i live. So maxibloom would work as a onepart? Just add some calmag to it?
I have done Lucas in hydro twice, once with bloom-micro and once with flora nova. Yes maxi bloom works as one part, it wasn’t available in Canada. I liked floranova but would prob opt out of using in hydro again as it’s so dirty. You don’t necessarily need calmag, Lucas formulas don’t call for it, I use it to match RO to tap water ec if anything.
 

J232

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If you found it dirty you were doing it wrong. :)
Like taking a shit in the rez man lol, I don’t think I ever went over 3-4ml a gallon never mind the 8 as posted for Lucas. Needed peroxide to keep shit at bay, the water itself was clean once mixed into, but yeah, it’s dirty. I ripped the hydro out, too old to fuck around, check my last journal I never bothered completing yet lol, pissed me off. Onto coco and 2 part salt currently. Kinda wanted to used floranova in coco, might try next time. You should of seen what FNB left in my chiller coil.
 

Rocco_sifredrik

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Did some research and People Said hesi was Hard to flush and left a bad taste. Think im going with maxibloom or micro Bloom. Been growing for 3 years now and i have only done sensi Bloom as base nute. Im only growing Skywalker og from now on, going to findd out which nutes that give it Justice.
 

OldMedUser

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Like taking a shit in the rez man lol, I don’t think I ever went over 3-4ml a gallon never mind the 8 as posted for Lucas. Needed peroxide to keep shit at bay, the water itself was clean once mixed into, but yeah, it’s dirty. I ripped the hydro out, too old to fuck around, check my last journal I never bothered completing yet lol, pissed me off. Onto coco and 2 part salt currently. Kinda wanted to used floranova in coco, might try next time. You should of seen what FNB left in my chiller coil.
Don't need 8 like the original Lucas Formula says. Just a ratio of 1ml Micro to 2mls Bloom and no Grow as in a 0-1-2 ratio. Like I said, you were doing it wrong. I did about 50 DWC grows in Rubbermaid tubs and the last 20 or so never changed my nutes once from clone to harvest and even revegged a few times in the same nutes and got great results. I switch to Lucas after the stretch. Used to use 35% peroxide a couple times a week at 0.5ml/L but built a chiller out of an old water cooler and dropped the peroxide. Could maintain 65 - 68F easily and the plants loved it.

I've mainly used AN for 20 years. Tried lots of others but that pH perfect with RO makes life so easy even in Promix HP that I retired my pH pen years ago. Only need it if I'm trying some different nutes like REMO of MC and neither needed any pH adjustment.

I found hydro way easier than soil but getting the hang of mixing the two and having happy plants. Even bought a big bag of coco to give that a try.

:peace:
 

OldMedUser

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Did some research and People Said hesi was Hard to flush and left a bad taste. Think im going with maxibloom or micro Bloom. Been growing for 3 years now and i have only done sensi Bloom as base nute. Im only growing Skywalker og from now on, going to findd out which nutes that give it Justice.
You think flushing does something to change the taste? Flushing doesn't remove anything from the plants themselves. What you are talking about is starving the plant thru one of the most critical stages to get the biggest yields and resin production. Lower ppm but more K, S and Mg in the last 2 or 3 weeks gets you dank. most people overfeed in the earlier stages and load excess nutes into the plant that are still there after harvest and it's excess P that gives it that 'chem' taste more than anything. Less P and N after the stretch with more of the others.

::peace:
 

J232

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Don't need 8 like the original Lucas Formula says. Just a ratio of 1ml Micro to 2mls Bloom and no Grow as in a 0-1-2 ratio. Like I said, you were doing it wrong. I did about 50 DWC grows in Rubbermaid tubs and the last 20 or so never changed my nutes once from clone to harvest and even revegged a few times in the same nutes and got great results. I switch to Lucas after the stretch. Used to use 35% peroxide a couple times a week at 0.5ml/L but built a chiller out of an old water cooler and dropped the peroxide. Could maintain 65 - 68F easily and the plants loved it.

I've mainly used AN for 20 years. Tried lots of others but that pH perfect with RO makes life so easy even in Promix HP that I retired my pH pen years ago. Only need it if I'm trying some different nutes like REMO of MC and neither needed any pH adjustment.

I found hydro way easier than soil but getting the hang of mixing the two and having happy plants. Even bought a big bag of coco to give that a try.

:peace:
There is no micro, flora nova is a one part. Pls explain how it was wrong... you’re confused with the trio which I also used previously... definitely not wrong.. ever use floranova or just the floratrio?? Not even close to the same.
 
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OldMedUser

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There is no micro, flora nova is a one part. Pls explain how it was wrong... you’re confused with the trio which I also used previously... definitely not wrong.. ever use floranova or just the floratrio?? Not even close to the same.
I won't ever use GH products or anything Hawthorne, Scotts etc. Scumbag companies in league with the likes of monsatan and bayer don't deserve pot growers money. GH always denied there products were used to grow pot and would not discuss it if you mentioned pot while calling their support lines so fuck them.

Now they're all climbing on the bandwagon to try and corner the pot market so fuck them twice.
 

J232

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I won't ever use GH products or anything Hawthorne, Scotts etc. Scumbag companies in league with the likes of monsatan and bayer don't deserve pot growers money. GH always denied there products were used to grow pot and would not discuss it if you mentioned pot while calling their support lines so fuck them.

Now they're all climbing on the bandwagon to try and corner the pot market so fuck them twice.
Yeah that sucks, I’m using flora flex currently, not sure there background but they are owned by 4D holdings. I can do a run for $100 ish which still might be a lot for some buying bulk salts.
 

Rocco_sifredrik

Active Member
You think flushing does something to change the taste? Flushing doesn't remove anything from the plants themselves. What you are talking about is starving the plant thru one of the most critical stages to get the biggest yields and resin production. Lower ppm but more K, S and Mg in the last 2 or 3 weeks gets you dank. most people overfeed in the earlier stages and load excess nutes into the plant that are still there after harvest and it's excess P that gives it that 'chem' taste more than anything. Less P and N after the stretch with more of the others.

::peace:
I won't ever use GH products or anything Hawthorne, Scotts etc. Scumbag companies in league with the likes of monsatan and bayer don't deserve pot growers money. GH always denied there products were used to grow pot and would not discuss it if you mentioned pot while calling their support lines so fuck them.

Now they're all climbing on the bandwagon to try and corner the pot market so fuck them twice.
Ok so what are you using?
 

OldMedUser

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Ok so what are you using?
A large variety of things both organic and hydro. Promix HP for my base with 3 types of composted manures, EWC, DynoMyco, some unfiltered dugout water to enhance biodiversity but mostly RO, crab/lobster meal, greensand, gypsum and a few other things. On the hydro side AN 3-part and Big Bud, REMO 7-part kit, MegaCrop, P/K, K alone, chelated minerals, potassium silicate, Epsom Salts, CalMag. For carbs I mix dextrose, unsulphured blackstrap molasses. and unpasteurized local honey.

From '01 I did mainly DWC in Rubbermaid tubs with quite a bit of growing in pots until 3 or 4 years ago when I got more into just growing in pots and experimenting with adding organics to the soilless Promix and have been finding that to be the best of both worlds for me. Recycling my soil with some fresh amendments and using hydro ingredients to fill in any gaps seems to keep the plants happy and problem free. Seems to get better with age.

Just finished trimming up one of the two Mazarilla fem autos I grew outside in a soil mix using all of the above plus homemade compost and really like the results so aiming for a dozen next year. Smaller plants but finished long before the cold weather and fall rains started and got around 5oz of really frosty dank buds. I'm in northern Alberta above 55°N so photo plants won't work without a blackout greenhouse but that may be coming in the next couple years.

With my arthritis trimming is hell for me but as most is going to be made into meds for ourselves and a growing cadre of friends in need just snipping off bare stuff and feeding most of it to the trimmer is saving me lots of pain and time. Keeping an oz of the best buds aside from each for smoke and most of that will probably end up in the oil pot too. Just finished up a 114g batch of RSO a few days ago.

Getting into making fem seeds with STS lately and will be cranking out some all winter especially the Mazarilla to share with a few friends who liked my little garden and want some like those next summer. Pink Kush, GG#4, Cherry Noir and a couple CBD strains are that menu.

:peace:
 

PizzaBob

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If you want results with least fuss floranova for the win. I highly recommend buying the grow and bloom. It is a true one part and NOT buying grow makes no sense because you won’t save money. So buy the grow too. And it is a one part. Use either grow or bloom and that’s it. Unless RO water then calmag and about the only other additive you might need is Si. And if you Really feel an urge to spend money to add more stuff just go with GH flora series. I am using flora series.

Don’t use the Lucas Formula though. Just follow the GH feed chart. You won’t save money and the couple seconds to use grow is well worth it. As far as what line up? I currently use the GH flora series and follow the 10 part feed chart except I use grow genius SI instead of there Si, use botanicare calmag + instead of there’s, use mr fulvic and “kelp it real” kelp instead of floralicious plus. I follow their medium feed chart to the letter for Flora micro, grow, bloom, rapid start and the koolbloom/ripen. For the replacements I follow the recommended rates given by each.

I ran Mills to the letter for a year and also a custom by some outfit in California. So far I’m not seeing any difference at 3 weeks into flower. At week 5 I should be able to see if one is better. I will say I’m going to save a ton of money over Mills. I’ll post pics if you check back.
 
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