Changes at Timber Grow Lights

wietefras

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Let's qualify this. By "boards" I presume you mean QB288s. I have yet to see a PPFD map for the "light-ceiling" style of build being done with the QB120/QB132.
Yes I'm referring to the boards that people actually use :)

:edit: Actually there are some tests on youtube of the QB120, but only a s veg light or something.
 
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Or_Gro

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You boast a lot, but you say very little that shows any understanding.

And yet you haven't named a single downside.

See? That shows you completely lack any understanding of rating different solutions.

You can grow plants under CFL just fine. So we should all be using that?

That both can grow plants is not the issue. That one costs almost twice as much and then offers less efficacy on the plants does. Less value for more money. You don't overcome that with imagined skillz
Don’t you get sick of being an asshole?

What i like about riu is that it has some real expert growers.

What i hate about riu is all the stupid fucking clowns who think growing a fucking weed is some dick measuring contest.

I’m done with you!
 

wietefras

Well-Known Member
Don’t you get sick of being an asshole?
Not to pretentious dumb asses no. Stop pretending so much and people won't chew you out all the time.

Besides, I actually gave lots of arguments to support my case, while all you did was make an "appeal to authority" to try and put me in the corner.

ps Is it "you" again? The NoClueHaving, fake researcher slinging FUD? Couldn't stay away and ready for another wave of spreading your annoyance and people clicking their ignore buttons? Until you get banned.
 
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Or_Gro

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Not to pretentious dumb asses no. Stop pretending so much and people won't chew you out all the time.

Besides, I actually gave lots of arguments to support my case, while all you did was make an "appeal to authority" to try and put me in the corner.

ps Is it "you" again? The NoClueHaving, fake researcher slinging FUD? Couldn't stay away and ready for another wave of spreading your annoyance and people clicking their ignore buttons? Until you get banned.
Wtf are you talking about? You ego bloated paranoid twit!

Here are my credentials:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/just-bought-my-model-48sams-from-timber-cant-wait-to-join-the-big-boys.971377/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/extreme-flowering-under-pair-of-timber-48sams.974039/page-8

Stop embarrassing yourself and read!
 
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Or_Gro

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Sorry dan, was trying to show how good your prods are. You know where i am, stop by once in awhile.

Just a parting pic of your lights in action, from this morning, day 30 of 84:

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Thanks dan, guess the price/performance of your 48sams was ahead of their time.

Look at those heights and spreads!

The trick to hot spots (none here) is to center your plants under them and pull mains to perimeter, let apical dominance pull laterals to sun, swirl mains as necessary...hard to do with scrog, easy with screenless scroglines...

Like i said, competent growers can do well with qbs or cobs.
 
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Aolelon

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Sorry dan, was trying to show how good your prods are. You know where i am, stop by once in awhile.

Just a parting shot, from this morning, day 30 of 84:

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Thanks dan, guess these 48sams were ahead of their time.

Look at those heights and spreads!

The trick to hot spots (none here) is to center your plants under them and pull mains to perimeter, let apical dominance pull laterals to sun, swirl mains as necessary...hard to do with scrog, easy with screenless scroglines...

Like i said, competent growers can do well with qbs or cobs.
Ahead of it's time, lmao, using boards that are widely available. And some extrusion aluminum.
You're wild.
 

growingforfun

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Sorry dan, was trying to show how good your prods are. You know where i am, stop by once in awhile.

Just a parting shot, from this morning, day 30 of 84:

View attachment 4202019

Thanks dan, guess these 48sams were ahead of their time.

Look at those heights and spreads!

The trick to hot spots (none here) is to center your plants under them and pull mains to perimeter, let apical dominance pull laterals to sun, swirl mains as necessary...hard to do with scrog, easy with screenless scroglines...

Like i said, competent growers can do well with qbs or cobs.
I guess a small tents with 3 plants is considered the "big time", I had no idea...

Sit the fuck down an shut the fuck up.
 

maxlev

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Compared to you, I have sod all "credentials"

I only have 2 lights over a few 8 - 12 inch plants in veg.
Went without recently for 4 years, seeds were as hard to find locally as when I started in 1979.

Oh shit sorry, I thought you meant how wealthy
 

Humple

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Yes I'm referring to the boards that people actually use :)

:edit: Actually there are some tests on youtube of the QB120, but only a s veg light or something.
No argument from me that most people think 288 when they hear "board", but you know I have to toss the little guys into the ring too. In my semi-educated (just enough to get me in trouble) opinion, HLG should have migrated their focus to the 120/132 some time ago. Seemed like the obvious evolution of the board concept, as - due to the simplicity and low cost - it affords a minimal barrier to entry for noobies. (And I still think they're "strip-like" when configured properly).

Yes, I've seen the 120 on YouTube, but unfortunately not in any configuration approaching the light-ceiling, and not in any space sized appropriate to its power (unless, as you pointed out, it's being used for veg only).
 

Humple

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Not to pretentious dumb asses no. Stop pretending so much and people won't chew you out all the time.

Besides, I actually gave lots of arguments to support my case, while all you did was make an "appeal to authority" to try and put me in the corner.

ps Is it "you" again? The NoClueHaving, fake researcher slinging FUD? Couldn't stay away and ready for another wave of spreading your annoyance and people clicking their ignore buttons? Until you get banned.
Oh for fuck's sake. Say it isn't so! Not him again... Seems I already have the person to whom you're speaking on my ignore list, but if nofuckstoresearchslungpar is back, I feel for everyone else on the forum.
 

Or_Gro

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Compared to you, I have sod all "credentials"

I only have 2 lights over a few 8 - 12 inch plants in veg.
Went without recently for 4 years, seeds were as hard to find locally as when I started in 1979.

Oh shit sorry, I thought you meant how wealthy
Max, i know you’re a good guy and i understand why you’re pissed at me.

Nothing personal to you or anyone else who owns hlg fixtures, just hate to see the guy with the best price/performance - dan - get run out of the biz.

Peace dude, and all the best!

As for the clowns who are scumbags, you know what i think of you...if not, a middle finger in the air should do it.
 
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